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Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

American said:
That's because people like YOU, are more concerned with taking guns away than protecting children. Gun free zones....how absurd! You can't prove you care about those children more than pro-2nd Amendment advocates.
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Whatever. Every time there's a mass shooting you all circle the wagons and go into protect 2nd amendment mode. You guys don't hear yourselves. The idea that you would suddenly care about four people and keep up their deaths for two years , vs. sweeping each mass murder under the carpet as soon as it happens regardless of how many and how young the victims, is painfully transparent.
 
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Cardinal said:
Whatever. Every time there's a mass shooting you all circle the wagons and go into protect 2nd amendment mode. You guys don't hear yourselves. The idea that you would suddenly care about four people and keep up their deaths for two years , vs. sweeping each mass murder under the carpet as soon as it happens regardless of how many and how young the victims, is painfully transparent.
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Cut the bull****, the two are unrelated and you're covering up for Hillary's failings. She's an empty suit like her old boss, and came in on the coattails of her husband.
 
American said:
Cut the bull****, the two are unrelated and you're covering up for Hillary's failings. She's an empty suit like her old boss, and came in on the coattails of her husband.
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Yeah......when they come with that BS American. All you need point out, is Chicago. Refusing to follow Constitutional Law for Years. That's Years.

Then Point about those bangers and all that Pretty talk the Demos do about Guns and Laws. Pretty much ends the BS Right then and there.

Otherwise......its nothing more than a deflection that is non applicable.
 
Cardinal said:
This from the people who hear about the latest mass shooting at a public school, shrug and say, "Whatevs. 2nd amendment, bitches."
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Nobody says that. We DO however point out when there were plenty of signs leading up to the shootings that authorities didn't pay attention to. And if ever there was a call in to police for a mass shooting and they dithered and eventually claimed that they couldn't muster a response in time so no response was sent then you can bet your ass we would all be calling for criminal investigations.

And if a police sergeant ever claimed "what difference does it make!?" during the investigation we would also assume they would be a disaster as commissioner.
 
American said:
Cut the bull****, the two are unrelated and you're covering up for Hillary's failings. She's an empty suit like her old boss, and came in on the coattails of her husband.
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It's related in that the very people pretending to be upset at the deaths of those people will keep the scandal alive for years, and will completely gloss over the deaths from the mass shootings. You can see this happen on a near monthly basis for years and years and years. Your history doesn't lie.
 
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jmotivator said:
Nobody says that. We DO however point out when there were plenty of signs leading up to the shootings that authorities didn't pay attention to. And if ever there was a call in to police for a mass shooting and they dithered and eventually claimed that they couldn't muster a response in time so no response was sent then you can bet your ass we would all be calling for criminal investigations.
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And I assume you and everyone else here called for investigations and kept beating that drum until you found out who was responsible for dropping the ball each and every time, right? Oh, that's right, you didn't. Because you don't actually care.

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And if a police sergeant ever claimed "what difference does it make!?" during the investigation we would also assume they would be a disaster as commissioner.
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Or like Calgun I suppose you could just argue that the deaths from those mass shootings are statistically irrelevant.
 
Cardinal said:
And I assume you and everyone else here called for investigations and kept beating that drum until you found out who was responsible for dropping the ball each and every time, right? Oh, that's right, you didn't. Because you don't actually care.
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When there is someone obviously at fault then sure. Like I said, if the police decided not to run to the sound of he gun in VA Tech or Columbine etc. and sat around for 7 hours because the attack could be over at any minute so why hurry then sure, please investigate.

We had a case kind of like that here in Washington DC where a man collapsed from a heart attack across the street from a fire station and nobody from the fire station came out to help because they assumed someone else would call an ambulance. The guy died. The Lieutenant in charge was allowed to retire. She should have gone to jail. She sure as hell shouldn't be considered for Fire Chief.

Or like Calgun I suppose you could just argue that the deaths from those mass shootings are statistically irrelevant.
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Or perhaps you can claim some more ridiculous logical fallacies to bolster you lame argument.
 
I will not be a part of a political slugfest on the backs of dead Americans.
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Um, isn't she part of the anti-gun crowd? What a hypocrite.
 
jmotivator said:
When there is someone obviously at fault then sure. Like I said, if the police decided not to run to the sound of he gun in VA Tech or Columbine etc. and sat around for 7 hours because the attack could be over at any minute so why hurry then sure, please investigate.

We had a case kind of like that here in Washington DC where a man collapsed from a heart attack across the street from a fire station and nobody from the fire station came out to help because they assumed someone else would call an ambulance. The guy died. The Lieutenant in charge was allowed to retire. She should have gone to jail. She sure as hell shouldn't be considered for Fire Chief.
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And how many investigations have any of you called for? None. Your complete apathy with regards to shooting victims is deafening. Well, if they're citizens and on U.S. soil, that is.

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Or perhaps you can claim some more ridiculous logical fallacies to bolster you lame argument.
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Let me try to clear up for you why you're all hypocrites at best, liars at worst. You attribute (falsely, but we'll ignore that for now) a statement to Clinton implying that she's minimizing the deaths of several people. Meanwhile, you have someone in your own midst minimizing, over and over and over again, the deaths of all the people ever killed in mass shootings, arguing that they're statistically irrelevant, and all any of you can do is shuffle your feet, whistle and hope it just kind of blows over. But it's not blowing over, and that's why nobody takes you seriously. That's what we all know that the people screaming about Benghazi are hypocrites and liars.
 
Cardinal said:
And how many investigations have any of you called for? None. Your complete apathy with regards to shooting victims is deafening. Well, if they're citizens and on U.S. soil, that is.
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Your line of argument is pointless, Cardinal. Can yo name a school shooting where the police decided not to send officers to the scene? No? Of course you can't. How about a school shooting where the police failed to send officers to the scene and then spent the next year stone walling the investigation by withholding emails, later providing heavily redacted tranches, and even later found that the redacted information was officers trying to push a narrative to reduce scrutiny.



Let me try to clear up for you why you're all hypocrites at best, liars at worst.
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No, Cardinal, but your personal attacks are rather telling.


You attribute (falsely, but we'll ignore that for now) a statement to Clinton implying that she's minimizing the deaths of several people.
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Of course she was minimizing their deaths. She wanted desperately to maintain the false narrative that the deaths of the 4 men was out of her control, refusing to take responsibility. She made it about poor put upon her.


Meanwhile, you have someone in your own midst minimizing, over and over and over again, the deaths of all the people ever killed in mass shootings, arguing that they're statistically irrelevant, and all any of you can do is shuffle your feet, whistle and hope it just kind of blows over. But it's not blowing over, and that's why nobody takes you seriously. That's what we all know that the people screaming about Benghazi are hypocrites and liars.
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Let me know when they run for office.
 
jmotivator said:
Your line of argument is pointless, Cardinal. Can yo name a school shooting where the police decided not to send officers to the scene? No? Of course you can't. How about a school shooting where the police failed to send officers to the scene and then spent the next year stone walling the investigation by withholding emails, later providing heavily redacted tranches, and even later found that the redacted information was officers trying to push a narrative to reduce scrutiny.

No, Cardinal, but your personal attacks are rather telling.

Of course she was minimizing their deaths. She wanted desperately to maintain the false narrative that the deaths of the 4 men was out of her control, refusing to take responsibility. She made it about poor put upon her.

Let me know when they run for office.
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That's actually refreshingly honest. That you require principles of our elected officials but not of yourselves is not surprising, but that you're so proud of this fact and so willing to acknowledge it kind of is. The people screaming about Benghazi are certainly a swell bunch.

Seriously, no wonder you're all so ready to lie and make a mockery of the deaths of the victims of Benghazi. You don't even believe principles are required of you.
 
Beaudreaux said:
I'm very sure that it's her account. The account she wants put forward. It may also, in fact, be what she knows about it and all she knows about it. It does not mean that it's all there is though or that it's all the facts. She was not the only person in the decision chain nor was she the only person who had the authority to give orders during the incident or to frame the statements made later about what happened (also known as, and so far proved to be, lies).
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Amazing-she lied PRECISELY FOR POLITICAL REASONS IN AN ELECTION SEASON, and yet you lefties still think its Republicans that are playing politics.
 
CalGun said:
Hmm...is it worse to politicize the failures and lies of the regime
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We know that the GOP is doing this, without proving lies and failures.
or is it worse to fail and lie about 4 dead Americans?
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We also know that the GOP started throwing around the LIE word when they couldn't win a Presidential election.
And are now desperate to defeat HRC with the LIE word .
 
Cardinal said:
That's because you could never attribute a quote to me so callously and cavalierly belittling the deaths of anyone, unlike all the ways you've found to belittle the deaths of mass shootings in order to feel good about the 2nd amendment. But I've dug up your history (with extreme ease, it should be said), so feel free to see if you can dig up anything so callous by me. Or you can just choose to run away and put me on ignore because you don't like how easy it is to call you on your lies. You care about the deaths of the four people in Benghazi as much as you care about the dead from all the mass shootings: none at all. Your own posting history proves it.
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My compliments to you for exposing these people for dancing on Benghazi graves,
while they now dance on VA graves, along with the current Afghan-POW caused graves.

Yet they're the first to accuse me and others of dancing on mass murder graves .
 
CanadaJohn said:
“I will not be a part of a political slugfest on the backs of dead Americans. It’s just plain wrong, and it’s unworthy of our great country. Those who insist on politicizing the tragedy will have to do so without me.”

Says Mrs. Clinton - this must be why she was nowhere to be found in the days/weeks following the 9/11/12 attacks in Benghazi and Susan Rice had to carry the administration's political lies instead of the woman who should have been front and center.
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Unproven accusations of Lies are all that you people have had since losing another Presidential election.

I also find it funny that Pete says she doesn't want to politicize the death of four Americans while at the same time he says Clinton wants to get this incident out of the way before her run for the Presidential nomination.
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I don't find it funny that you would talk about Pete behind his back without directly quoting him.
Let's match death for death and PROVEN felony for felony with foreign affairs back through Reagan.

The loyalty of the blind is breathtaking.
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You have now described yourself perfectly .
 
US Conservative said:
Nope. Do you consider yourself a lefty?
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How is that "not-so-select" committee of I$$A doing these days?
And now we have McKeon's committee opening a new chapter with the prisoner exchange.
There is no end to the GOP politicizing death and foreign policy when they are not in power .
 
NIMBY said:
How is that "not-so-select" committee of I$$A doing these days?
And now we have McKeon's committee opening a new chapter with the prisoner exchange.
There is no end to the GOP politicizing death and foreign policy when they are not in power .
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Ah yes, continue the posturing. The left is going to be dragged out into the sunlight, kicking and screaming. BTW, today was primary day, and Issa is my congressional rep. He's doing a bang up job. ;)
 
I'm sure that will come as a comfort to the 270 Lockerbie families that the Lybian dictator murdered, the one you're praising.
Why do you suppose Reagan bombed Khaddaffi?

Imagine the GOP outrage if the Beirut barracks bombings 31 years ago had happened on Obama's watch, versus Reagan's, killing 299 soldiers.
Or God forbid, if Gore had been President when 9/11 happened, if it would have happened.
Pretty sick when one party politicizes death don't you think ?
polgara said:
Gadhafi provided benefits for his people that neither we, nor any other country in the West, provide to this day! And Libya was debt free, also unlike any other Country in the West! Not bad for a "backward" country, IMO!
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US Conservative said:
Ah yes, continue the posturing. The left is going to be dragged out into the sunlight, kicking and screaming. BTW, today was primary day, and Issa is my congressional rep. He's doing a bang up job. ;)
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His time will come .
 
polgara said:
Gadhafi provided benefits for his people that neither we, nor any other country in the West, provide to this day! And Libya was debt free, also unlike any other Country in the West! Not bad for a "backward" country, IMO!
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Libya was "debt free" because it had the most valuable natural resource on the planet and companies not from Libya perfectly willing to come dig it up and pay the Libyan government for the privilege.

Colombia would be "debt free" too, if cocaine was legal.
 
NIMBY said:
His time will come .
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The day they drum that dickwad out of Congress can't come soon enough.

When Real Time with Bill Maher first started on HBO, Issa was on it a lot and actually struck me as a reasonable fellow. I never thought he, of all people, would become the GOP's resident bloodhound. But I guess he knows from whence his checks are coming.
 
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