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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah well.....when that word. Repeated, calls for Security/(Help) comes Ringing thru.....you might then understand about that Oath they take and as well as any in the Military.
    do you account for different time zones? the chain of command? or just the simple factor of random chance?

    i am not a religious man but i do believe in chance, and that night was unfortunately the result of multiple factors.
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    This Changes nothing of what is posted up and tears this Administration apart at the seams.....but really. Here is some of what he did.


    In Libya Homes were considered as a human right.
    Newly married couples received $50,000 to buy their homes.
    Human rights in Libya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In 2006, Amnesty International called for an independent inquiry into unconfirmed deaths that occurred in Abu Salim maximum security prison during the 1996 riot.[25] In 2009, Human Rights Watch believes that 1,270 prisoners were killed.[26][27] However, Human Rights Watch states that they were unable to independently verify the allegations. The claims cited by Human Rights Watch are based on the testimony of a single former inmate, Hussein Al Shafa’i, who stated that he did not witness a prisoner being killed: "I could not see the dead prisoners who were shot..."[28]
    Luis Moreno Ocampo, chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, estimated that between 500 and 700 people were killed by Gaddafi's security forces in February 2011, before the rebels even took up arms. "Shooting at protestors was systematic," Moreno-Ocampo stated, discussing the Libyan government's response to the initial pro-democracy demonstrations.[40]
    For 40 years, Libya was declared a Not Free state by Freedom House.

    Electricity was free to all people.
    You can do that when 40% of the population lives in poverty.

    Before Gaddafi less than 1/5th of population of libya was literate, education after Gaddafi was free and 83% literacy rate. Healthcare was free and of high quality.
    Good grief, look at Cuba and how free they are for accomplishing the same thing.

    All loans were interest free 0% by law.
    Not much of a point in charging interest when most of the population can't even afford loans.

    When a Libyan bought a car, government paid 50% of price.
    40% poverty.

    Price of Gasoline was 0.14$ (8.4 rupees a litre)
    Socialist nonsense.

    On 1st july 2011, 1.7 million people assembled in Green Square in support of Gaddafi, to show defiance against the NATO bombing Libya. That is 95% population of Tripoli or 1/3 the population of libya.
    Regimes are never short of people willing to defend it.

    Libya: Gaddafi squads 'tortured people in shipping containers' - Telegraph

    Libyan central bank was state owned, unlike the banks in west.
    So what?

    Libya was debt free.
    False:

    Libya - Debt - external - Historical Data Graphs per Year


    He believed in direct democracy, and not in the current form of lie filled democracy where politicians will lie and manipulate to come in power. He believed in self rule.
    Gadhafi believed that parliamentary democracies were inherently corrupt.....snip~
    No. He believed in his rule. He was a dictator.
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    would a man who really supported his people bomb them when they protested his regime?

    My sympathy for Ghaddafi is non-existant because of his involvement in lockerbie and what he did to his own people.

    his cult of personality doomed his country.


    Do you think any deflection about Gadhafi and what he was or is.....changes up mistakes made by this Administration. Lies told outright to the American people. Then statements walked back to even admitting oh now we know.


    Which then doesn't even count the whole issue on both the State Dept an the CIA blaming each other.

    Oh and now.....remember this is an Actual Committee that can take measures. Unlike.....and I that's Unlike any of the other committees that have been held.

    Do you think that part is to difficult to understand for those on the left? You know about the Measures that can be taken. Where the other Committees couldn't take them?

    Why do they always repeat that useless line about all the other committees?

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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. He believed in his rule. He was a dictator.
    He believed in direct democracy, and not in the current form of lie filled democracy where politicians will lie and manipulate to come in power. He believed in self rule.
    Gadhafi believed that parliamentary democracies were inherently corrupt.....snip~



    Uhm .....Yeah.....do you think that part about him believing in self rule. Kind of like, you know. Explains that?

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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    do you account for different time zones? the chain of command? or just the simple factor of random chance?

    i am not a religious man but i do believe in chance, and that night was unfortunately the result of multiple factors.


    Sure.....how do you count for over a year's worth of Intel and knowledge of what was already known?

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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Do you think any deflection about Gadhafi and what he was or is.....changes up mistakes made by this Administration. Lies told outright to the American people. Then statements walked back to even admitting oh now we know.


    Which then doesn't even count the whole issue on both the State Dept an the CIA blaming each other.

    Oh and now.....remember this is an Actual Committee that can take measures. Unlike.....and I that's Unlike any of the other committees that have been held.

    Do you think that part is to difficult to understand for those on the left? You know about the Measures that can be taken. Where the other Committees couldn't take them?

    Why do they always repeat that useless line about all the other committees?
    you did not like the answers of the other commitees because they did not directly blame Obama personally for what happened.

    to be blunt: you are like the executionier whining that he has been denied his kill.
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He believed in direct democracy,
    Direct democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Direct democracy (also known as pure democracy)[1] is a form of democracy in which people decide (e.g. vote on, form consensus on, etc.) policy initiatives directly, as opposed to a representative democracy in which people vote for representatives who then decide policy initiatives.[2] Depending on the particular system in use, it might entail passing executive decisions, the use of sortition, making laws, directly electing or dismissing officials and conducting trials. Two leading forms of direct democracy are participatory democracy and deliberative democracy.
    At what point did Libyans decide... anything under Gaddafi?

    Uhm .....Yeah.....do you think that part about him believing in self rule. Kind of like, you know. Explains that?
    Self-governance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Self-rule is associated then in contexts where there is the end of colonial rule, absolute government or monarchy, as well as demands for autonomy by religious, ethnic or geographic regions which perceive themselves as being unrepresented or underrepresented in a national government.
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He believed in direct democracy, and not in the current form of lie filled democracy where politicians will lie and manipulate to come in power. He believed in self rule.
    Gadhafi believed that parliamentary democracies were inherently corrupt.....snip~



    Uhm .....Yeah.....do you think that part about him believing in self rule. Kind of like, you know. Explains that?
    so maybe should have left Saddam Hussain in power as well, after all he was just as much a dictator as ghadaffi.
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    would a man who really supported his people bomb them when they protested his regime?

    My sympathy for Ghaddafi is non-existant because of his involvement in lockerbie and what he did to his own people.

    his cult of personality doomed his country.

    Where is the Video footage of Gadhafi Bombing his people and committing genocide?

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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    so maybe should have left Saddam Hussain in power as well, after all he was just as much a dictator as ghadaffi.
    Non-applicable.

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