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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    even thou i don't like kerry, he has done more in his short tenure as SOS then clinton did in 4 years.
    Yeah well.....he has been played like a rag doll. But at least he has engaged with those who aren't afraid to talk tuff. Hillary was a different story. Most Arabs let whatever she said go in one ear and Right out the other. All the while smiling in her face and nodding say yes yes. We can help you with money.

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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Its been debunked.....there was no protest. So she can defend all she wants. Overseas New Sources have reported it as well.

    Moreover.....all she is doing is trying to cover. That She and her Dept. Hired Ansar Al Sharia as Security for Benghazi. Another fact she can't get around.
    you don't seem to accept the idea that the administration was only acting on information that seemed accurate at the time.

    why is that answer reasonable.
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    you don't seem to accept the idea that the administration was only acting on information that seemed accurate at the time.

    why is that answer reasonable.
    Because they knew who it was that was attacking us before that month of Sept. You don't seem to accept the answer that the Public wasn't being told that State Hired Ansar al Sharia.....a group that is associated with AQ and really technically an Off shoot of the morphing thereof.

    That Hillary was quite aware they were Hired. As she showed up a couple of months prior and added security was put in place. By Her! Libyan Security.....she Hired.

    One doesn't.....let the enemy in, and then give them the Keys to the doors. KnowwhatImean UWS!

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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    you don't seem to accept the idea that the administration was only acting on information that seemed accurate at the time.

    why is that answer reasonable.
    because its NOT true!! you are accepting their lie!!
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Because they knew who it was that was attacking us before that month of Sept. You don't seem to accept the answer that the Public wasn't being told that State Hired Ansar al Sharia.....a group that is associated with AQ and really technically an Off shoot of the morphing thereof.

    That Hillary was quite aware they were Hired. As she showed up a couple of months prior and added security was put in place. By Her! Libyan Security.....she Hired.

    One doesn't.....let the enemy in, and then give them the Keys to the doors. KnowwhatImean UWS!
    did we know it was that specific militia groupt which was attacking us at the time of the attack?
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    And you care about the innocent victims of gun violence and not the victims of this regimes incompetence at protecting American's on foreign soil? I would still never quote you with a crass comment like you did me - so from this point on you should be ignored. I'll start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You're incredibly confused about what "quotes" mean. I said that the outrage at the deaths from benghazi tend to come from people who minimize the deaths from mass shootings, usually via support of 2nd amendment rights. I applied that to you because I was pretty sure I remembered you holding those beliefs in other threads. Not only that, but I get the super bonus of finding time after time of you saying that mass shooting deaths are statistically irrelevant. NOT ONLY THAT, but I got the super double fudge bonus of you confirming my initial statement when you said "My adamant stance on our civil liberty and right to own guns..."

    Everything about your position on this topic is a lie. You lie about your outrage over four deaths in Benghazi, and you lie about my claims about your position. Just lie after lie after lie. Anyone else can follow this conversation and see for themselves that everything about you is just one giant lie.

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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    because its NOT true!! you are accepting their lie!!
    the information at the time was incorrect, they have admitted that so i don't see how the information was a lie.

    it would require extraordinary evidence, such as a personal email from a high level source, that would make me believe the extrdinary, outright insane belief, that this administration willingly let 4 americans die in libya and covered up the nature of their deaths just to win a election.
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the information at the time was incorrect, they have admitted that so i don't see how the information was a lie.

    it would require extraordinary evidence, such as a personal email from a high level source, that would make me believe the extrdinary, outright insane belief, that this administration willingly let 4 americans die in libya and covered up the nature of their deaths just to win a election.
    the administration knew the why/who about the attack the next day.

    why do want to deny THAT fact?

    many days later the administration was still pushing the information YOU call incorrect.
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    did we know it was that specific militia groupt which was attacking us at the time of the attack?
    Yes and we even know that the Febuary 17th Brigade had members tied to Ansar al sharia. Also due to our people not trusting them. Hillary then Hired the Blue Mountain Group who the Brits had used and not our normal groups of security people we would use. Such as Blackwater types. Remember all the trouble with them. Remember how the left spoke out about them and what they had done in Iraq?

    See Hillary thought she would take responsibility without really doing so. But now.....the deck is stacking against her. Wait until it all comes out.




    For additional security in Benghazi, the State Department hired the little-known British company Blue Mountain Group instead of one of the large firms it has traditionally used in overseas danger zones; Blue Mountain employed local Libyans to serve as guards who patrolled the compound with only flashlights and batons rather than firearms.

    Congressman Darrell Issa (R-California), citing the testimony of witnesses and the content of key documents, explains one reason why the security at the Benghazi mission was so woefully inadequate:

    Some Democrats have claimed that security at the mission in Benghazi was inadequate because of budgetary contraints, but that claim is false. Indeed, the State Department was in possession of some $2.2 billion that could have been spent on upgrading security at U.S. embassies, consulates, and missions around the world, but the Obama administration elected not to do so. State Department official Charlene Lamb would eventually confirm, in her testimony before the House Oversight And Government Reform Committee on October 10, 2012, that budgetary considerations had nothing whatsoever to do with the inadequate security in Benghazi.

    At a subsequent House Oversight And Government Reform Committee hearing (in May 2013), Representatives Doug Collins and Rob Woodall asked RSO Eric Nordstrom to testify regarding how the State Department had repeatedly denied Nordstrom's requests for funding to pay for additional security at the mission in Benghazi.

    In March 2011 President Obama signs a secret order, or presidential “finding,” that authorizes covert operations to aid the “opposition” rebels in Libya who are fighting to topple the 42-year dictatorial rule of President Muammar Qaddafi. As The New York Times reports, “The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments [originating in Qatar and the United Arab Emirates] to Libyan rebels.” Moreover, President Obama says the U.S. has not ruled out providing military hardware directly to those rebels: “It's fair to say that if we wanted to get weapons into Libya, we probably could. We're looking at all our options at this point.”

    Among the Libyan rebels are many al Qaeda-affiliated jihadists. Indeed, the rebels' top military commander, Abdelhakim Belhadj, is the leader of an al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. Another opposition leader, Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, confirms that a substantial number of the Libyan rebels are al Qaeda fighters who previously battled U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. And former CIA officer Bruce Riedel tells the Hindustan Times: “There is no question that al-Qaeda’s Libyan franchise, [the] Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, is a part of the opposition. It has always been [Qaddafi's] biggest enemy, and its stronghold is Benghazi.”.....snip~ <<<<< !
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    Re: Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    the administration knew the why/who about the attack the next day.

    why do want to deny THAT fact?

    many days later the administration was still pushing the information YOU call incorrect.
    hindsight is 20/20

    there is no way i am going to accept the politically motivated crucifixion of this presidency that you are accepting without sufficient evidence confirming the absurdity of the claim. there are also reasons for not giving away the true idenity of the attackers. for example, did we really want to broadcast to the world the identity of the attackers and give them a reputation that they could build on?
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