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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Russia isn't sheltering Snowden purely for purposes of goodwill. Russia places great emphasis on reciprocity. It is sheltering him for mutual benefit: giving him shelter (his need) in exchange for critical information (its need). To believe that Russia would allow Snowden to reside there in the face of strong U.S. pressure and that the FSB would keep its hands off the contents of Snowden's laptops/flash drives doesn't make much sense. Russia would want something in return for its efforts and it almost certainly has it, and probably voluntarily in exchange for his being permitted to leave the airport.

    The previous poster came across as saying that he took the information SO THAT he could give it to Russia and China. Maybe I misinterpreted his meaning, but that's how it came across.

    Yes, I agree with you that no doubt he gave the Russians so information in exchange for a place to live, but I might be wrong on that. It doesn't really matter because the entire world can now read the information he absconded with.

    A man without a country and without a passport is in desperate straights, and I would not blame him for doing what he must.

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm betting more often than not you get it right. We come by those instincts naturally, so being aware of and honing them is a very powerful tool. Body language has always intrigued me. Some of us are better at reading it than others. I like to think I'm pretty good at it myself. Sometimes it's so obvious...one's body language is so far removed from the words coming from one's mouth.
    I have to admit to being less than perfect in my analysis of such things though. There have been times when I was so sure somebody was feeding me a complete line of bull, but when I checked it out, they were telling the absolute truth. And there have been times that I believed them to be telling me the truth when it turned out to be a bald faced lie. So I can be fooled.

    But I get it right enough of the time to at least be alert to my instincts.

    And my instincts are that Snowden was giving us some valuable information last night, but some of his personal justifications we might be wise take with a bit of a grain of salt.
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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW[W:28]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Specifics are not necessary.
    Sure they are.
    Otherwise, you just have embarrassed bureaucrats and gov't apparatchiks droning on about alleged "serious harm".

    When national security is violated, it harms all Americans.
    That's what the spymeisters all say.
    I don't believe them.

    If that were not so, you could advocate the release of all classified documents.
    I'm not sure about ALL classified info, but I'm guessing that most classified info has nothing to do with actual national security.
    No matter how cynical I become toward politicians, it's never enough.

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW[W:28]

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    One interview that reveals nothing
    Uhh its an interview. It was Snowden answering questions, so it certainly did reveal something..

    and a socialist responds with the above.
    Sure did.

    Ever think of waiting for the whole story from more than one source?
    Do you understand its an interview from NBC News. What other "sources" aired it when it was an NBC exclusive??...

    For starters is was shown this morning that 39% of the people polled were not sure how they felt about Snowden long BEFORE this aired.
    Cool. Whats your point?

    To me he should have spilled his info to the press and remained here to fight for what he believes in?
    Ok.

    Let's not forget he went to Cuba.
    No he didnt.


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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Hippy BS. A guy who steals info to dump for journalists to determine if its dangerous? Im sorry, but thats a low bar, the type only a lefty could celebrate.
    "Only lefty's can celebrate"? Many libertarians and conservatives say this man is a hero as well.. There are many examples here.


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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    ^ What are you talking about? Data mining is a marketing tool. People's activities get monitored by private websites who then use the anonymous data for marketing purposes. That's not the same thing a the government collecting info about your relationships, bank transactions, digital communications, etc... to build a profile on you when you haven't even committed a crime.

    Snowden is right. Our government (Republican and then Democrat) rode the 9/11 tragedy all the way to bank. We do not have the level of freedom from government intrusion that we had even back then, and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
    It isn't data mining.

    And it will not stop there
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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    There is no way that NBC invested countless thousands of dollars into arranging this Snowden interview without first gaining active support from government officials.

    Although the media does not tell us what to think, it does tell us what to think about.

    This interview was very personal. It is about rehabilitating Edward Snowden and negotiating a return to U.S. soil. The media knew full well how photogenic and intelligent Snowden was/is and knew full well that Snowden could easily participate with the narrative required,

    NSA is quite desperate to know the complete breech. To know what files were stolen because they need to know what must be tightened up as the programs move forward. (For the NSA, it is paramount to accertain just how much does "The Enemy" know?)

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW[W:28]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    God bless this man. God bless him. Its a shame that people view this man as a traitor and not as a hero in our country.
    Unfortunately, that is what happens when the media and government work in cooperation with each other. Together they can mold public opinion.
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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW[W:28]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Unfortunately, that is what happens when the media and government work in cooperation with each other. Together they can mold public opinion.
    They can certainly try to mold public opinion.
    How effective are they in this endeavor?
    This thread, as an example, has varying opinions on Snowden, not restricted to political lean.
    Skepticism towards gov't and media is widespread.
    That's a good thing.
    No matter how cynical I become toward politicians, it's never enough.

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW[W:28]

    Low level system analyist/army dropout who calls himself a "super spy". Lol just another ego maniac looking for fame in this age of celebrity
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