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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    As stated, he exposed much more than just illegal govt activities, and whats more he didn't even screen the data, he let the press do that.
    This is a lie. He was highly selective of what he took with him and what he has released.

    Still, it doesn't excuse your advocacy of rape.
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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    In the traditional American scheme of things, do you see the media (journalists) as having a role in keeping the government playing honestly? Is the Fourth Estate really necessary, and what role should it play in our form of government?
    Most mainstream American media has proven it is not adversarial and certainly not unbiased, especially under this administration.

    They never to their job, but this is where they decide to get tough? Please.

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW[W:28]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    God bless this man. God bless him. Its a shame that people view this man as a traitor and not as a hero in our country.
    Seriously. Why do people confuse their personal opposition to the PRISM program with a need to lionize the scumbag who revealed it?

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Probably not. But I doubt he would want to come back except to see family. He will probably end up moving to a more democratic nation as he intended once our govt gets the stick out of its butt.
    Govt doesn't forget things like this. He might be able to disappear. But otherwise his existence will get more and more unpleasant.

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Because he was in transit. It was one of the few places that would take him at the time. If he truly wanted to stay in Russia he wouldn't be seeking asylum in the EU now would he?



    Secrets that were illegally obtained in the first place. You conservatives are supposed to defend the Constitution, not defend constitutional violations.



    Yet, you and others in the "Snowden Is a Traitor!" camp keep bringing up Russia as if it was his first choice of countries to seek asylum in.
    Like I said, even IF he exposed some things that may or may not be illegal (the govt would argue it is, and frankly we dont know the full extend of these measures) that doesn't change what he did.

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    This is a lie. He was highly selective of what he took with him and what he has released.
    That is false. He loaded terabytes of data onto those laptops - assuming he worked literally 24 hours a day non stop the entire time he was in Hawaii, he didn't have the physical ability to be "highly selective" or screen what he took and what he didn't. At best he just grabbed the best stuff he could find, and stuffed as much of it as he could into the laptops before taking off to China.

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    This is a lie. He was highly selective of what he took with him and what he has released.

    Still, it doesn't excuse your advocacy of rape.
    If you watched the interview, and read the NBC transcripts you would know he stole far too many documents to know what was and wasn't "releasable", and he let journalists dig through what he released. This is in his own words.

    And no, Im not a rape advocate.

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW[W:28]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Seriously. Why do people confuse their personal opposition to the PRISM program with a need to lionize the scumbag who revealed it?
    Some of us believe why something is done is more important than what was done.

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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW[W:28]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Seriously. Why do people confuse their personal opposition to the PRISM program with a need to lionize the scumbag who revealed it?
    So you think its justifiable all the **** the NSA is doing?


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    Re: Edward Snowden NBC NEWS FULL INTERVIEW

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Secrets that were illegally obtained in the first place
    Really. Here is a very short list of some of the crap that Snowden has released:

    ...The classified portions of the U.S. intelligence budget, detailing how much we spend and where on efforts to spy on terror groups and foreign states, doesn’t deal with Americans’ privacy. This leak revealed the intelligence community’s self-assessment in 50 major areas of counterterrorism, and that “blank spots include questions about the security of Pakistan’s nuclear components when they are being transported, the capabilities of China’s next-generation fighter aircraft, and how Russia’s government leaders are likely to respond to ‘potentially destabilizing events in Moscow, such as large protests and terrorist attacks.’” The Pakistani, Chinese, and Russian intelligence agencies surely appreciate the status report.

    Our cyber-warfare capabilities and targets don’t deal with Americans’ privacy. The revelation that the U.S. launched 231 cyber-attacks against “top-priority targets, which former officials say includes adversaries such as Iran, Russia, China and North Korea and activities such as nuclear proliferation” in 2011 has nothing to do with Americans’ privacy.

    The extent and methods of our spying on China have nothing to do with Americans’ privacy.

    British surveillance of South African and Turkish diplomats has nothing to do with Americans’ privacy.

    The NSA’s successful interceptions of communications of Russian President Dimitri Medvedev has nothing to do with Americans’ privacy. This is not a scandal; it is literally the NSA’s job, and now the Russians have a better idea of what messages were intercepted and when.

    Revealing NSA intercepts and CIA stations in Latin America — again, nothing to do with U.S. citizens.

    Revealing a U.K. secret internet-monitoring station in the Middle East — nothing to do with U.S. citizens.

    The extent and range of NSA communications monitoring in India. . . .

    The fact that the United States has “ramped up its surveillance of Pakistan’s nuclear arms,” has “previously undisclosed concerns about biological and chemical sites there,” and details of “efforts to assess the loyalties of counterterrorism sources recruited by the CIA” . . .

    The U.S.’s spying on Al-Jazeera’s internal communication system. . . .

    What we know about al-Qaeda efforts to hack our drones
    . . . .

    The NSA’s ability to intercept the e-mail of al-Qaeda operative Hassan Ghul. . . .

    The NSA’s ability to read the e-mail of the Mexican president. . . .

    The U.S.’s electronic intercepts of communications to French consulates and embassies in New York and Washington. . . .

    The existence of NSA surveillance teams in 80 U.S. embassies around the globe . . .

    NSA’s spying on OPEC . . .

    NSA’s collecting data on the porn habits of Muslim extremist leaders in order to discredit them . . .
    Etc. so on and so forth. Perhaps you could tell me how these were all the result of unconstitutional collection, or why Snowden had to reveal them?

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