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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Given this administration's track record there in protecting people and material, I highly recommend everybody get out. Everybody. When it gets hot, and it will, we can see that in spite of our assets in the region, the likelihood they'd actually be deployed in Libya is about nil. I'm not anxious for such a deployment anyway, so we might as well call it what it is, and get out. The new "on the cheap" idea isn't working out so well for the people on the firing line, and those are the people I'm most concerned about. How this administration cares to spin its next fiasco is a secondary concern.
    I think this goes with what you are talking about HB. We even have Marine RECON.....over there. Sent there in Feb of 2013. Were there any others since now.....we know there was Green Berets and Delta there.


    This goes back as far as 2007 when it started. So anything here and going forward. All falls Under BO!!!!!



    Going forward, the U.S. and its Africa Command appear well positioned to press ahead with counter-terrorism efforts. It’s the culmination of a near decade-long, laser-like focus on security threats emanating from Africa. Those efforts picked up steam since the formation of AFRICOM in 2007.

    Yet some experts caution that such attention has skewed how Africa is viewed, resulting in an overly militarized outlook that sees an Islamic militant threat and little else. The risk, experts warn, is that isolated regional threats get conflated into something bigger.....snip~



    An increasing US focus on Africa — but is it a 'pivot'?


    A force reconnaissance Marine goes over threat detection methods with a group of Ugandan soldiers. Special Purpose Marine Air Ground Task Force 12 sent a small team of Marines into Uganda in February to train Ugandan forces for the fight against al-Shabaab in Somalia and the hunt for the Lord's Resistance Army in central Africa.

    The U.S. commando raids earlier this month in Somalia and Libya have some pundits floating the idea that the U.S. could be in the early stages of a strategic swing toward Africa. The idea has already been hash-tagged on Twitter as a kind of counterpoint to the much touted U.S. strategic shift to Asia.

    With misrule and weak governance casting an arc of instability across a large swath of Africa, the region at times seems almost front and center as U.S policymakers fret over the range of threats from home-grown terrorist groups in Somalia, Nigeria, and the Maghreb that have loose ties to al-Qaida and increasingly seem to be developing ties with each other.

    The U.S. has responded with a surge of Africa-focused military activity. In addition to training African militaries at the forefront of counter-terrorism efforts, the U.S. recently launched two southern Europe-based Marine Air Ground Task Forces focused on crisis response, which have been put on alert multiple times in the past few months In addition, there’s a growing constellation of small U.S. drone outposts: In Niger, bordering troublespots Libya and Mali, in Ethiopia, a gateway to Somalia, and a larger military base of operations at Camp Lemonier in Djibouti, strategically placed on the Gulf of Aden.....snip~

    An increasing US focus on Africa

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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Which reminds me.....We have Restricted our Troops to base in Djibouti. That's also where we have a Drone Base.


    Djibouti-based troops restricted to base following bombing.....



    U.S. Army Soldiers with Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa's East Africa Response Force (EARF) load onto a U.S. Air Force C-130 Hercules at Camp Lemonnier, Djibouti, Dec. 18, 2013. The EARF deployed to South Sudan supporting the departure of U.S. Embassy personnel.


    U.S. military personnel at Camp Lemonnier are locked down following a fatal bombing Saturday at a restaurant frequented by westerners in Djibouti, the strategic Horn of Africa nation that borders Somalia.

    No U.S. personnel were among the dead or injured, but, as a precaution, troops have been restricted to base, the U.S. military's Combined Joint Task Force Horn of Africa said.

    Official business is continuing, but off-post missions are being carefully considered to ensure necessary precautions are taken, Summers-Lowe added.

    "People are our most important asset and following the events of last weekend CJTF-HOA has increased security measures as appropriate and will continue to assess the situation in order to protect our personnel," Summers-Lowe said by email.

    Three civilians were killed and scores of others were injured in the attack, including some military assigned to the European Union's counter-piracy mission, according to multiple media reports.

    Since 2001, Camp Lemonnier has served as the U.S. military's main operational hub on the continent with a special focus on security matters around the Horn of Africa. In all, about 4,000 U.S. personnel are stationed in Djibouti, where the military compound has been under rapid expansion. Earlier this month, the U.S. reached a long-term security deal that ensures the military access to Camp Lemonnier for at least another 10 years.....snip~

    http://www.stripes.com/news/djibouti...mbing-1.285636

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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post

    In this image made from video provided by the Libyan national army via AP Television, Tripoli joint security forces stand guard at the entrance to the parliament after troops of Gen. Khalifa Hifter targeted Islamist lawmakers and officials at the parliament in Tripoli, Libya, Sunday, May 18, 2014

    The State Department recommended Tuesday that Americans leave Libya immediately and warned U.S. citizens against any travel to the North African country.

    The department also said that because of security concerns and limited staffing, it was only able to offer limited emergency services to U.S. citizens there. There was no move yet to evacuate diplomats from the embassy.

    "U.S. citizens currently in Libya should exercise extreme caution and depart immediately," the department said in a statement.

    The department in December warned U.S. citizens against all but essential travel to Tripoli, and against any travel outside the Libyan capital.

    Also Tuesday, U.S. defense officials said the Navy warship USS Bataan had moved into the Mediterranean Sea and could be used, if needed, for any possible evacuation of American personnel from Libya. The officials said the Bataan, an amphibious assault ship, was not near Libya and wasn't expected to be positioned off its coast. It more likely would remain in the region, and could move or respond quickly if called.....snip~

    State Department urges Americans to leave Libya immediately - Africa - Stripes


    Here is some more news that argues the points about the US being inside Libya......How do you think this affects BO's FBI investigation now? Do you note how the Press is labeling this General as going after Islamists? What do you think this means in this pretext within Libya?

    We are telling all Americans to get out of Libya.....yet we haven't made a move to evacuate any Embassy people yet. We have limited personnel and the Ansar al Sharia knows we have CIA there. As to some of the other Militias. Is this a disaster waiting to happen? What say ye?


    So much for bringing the terrorists who had a spontaneous demonstration over a video they'd never seen and killed four Americans..I guess Obama isn't ever going to get any rest now.

    Two years ago a conquering hero, defeated terrorism and managed regime change in Libya, today persona non grata.

    Well played, Barry, well played. Hows that apology workin' out for ya? Care to comment on "guns and Bibles"?
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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    So much for bringing the terrorists who had a spontaneous demonstration over a video they'd never seen and killed four Americans..I guess Obama isn't ever going to get any rest now.

    Two years ago a conquering hero, defeated terrorism and managed regime change in Libya, today persona non grata.

    Well played, Barry, well played. Hows that apology workin' out for ya? Care to comment on "guns and Bibles"?


    Certainly doesn't look like he will with Africa. Plus we know we will be in Djibouti for the next decade. One thing is for sure.....it don't seem like anything is much of a secret over there.

    With Libya its not just Ansar al Sharia.....its the militias that are joining up to, which means Berbers that wont accept anything backed and running with the MB or any Sunni Arabs.

    Then this General just tried to take the Parliament. While still going after whoever in the East and around Benghazi. Its the Wild Wild West. now.

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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Just when Libya was actually becoming a nice place, Obama F's it up.

    Did those 112 cruise missiles on day one of the unwarranted attack, and what followed, do any good to the world?

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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Just when Libya was actually becoming a nice place, Obama F's it up.

    Did those 112 cruise missiles on day one of the unwarranted attack, and what followed, do any good to the world?


    Heya LOP. So with all this going on today. How do you think this makes BO look with anything he says about Libya or Benghazi? What about the State Dept?

    Remember BO just mocking Benghazi at one of his fundraisers a few nights ago. Notice.....you don't see BO laughing to much now.....huh?

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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya LOP. So with all this going on today. How do you think this makes BO look with anything he says about Libya or Benghazi? What about the State Dept?

    Remember BO just mocking Benghazi at one of his fundraisers a few nights ago. Notice.....you don't see BO laughing to much now.....huh?
    My views on president Obomba have changed little since I first heard him speak. When he joined the UN in attacking Libya a few years back, I was absolutely appalled. His actions never surprised me since. I'll bet the UN would have never done such a attack without us. Libya was becoming a first world nation, and I think the elitists who control our global first world governments were afraid.

    Granted, Libya had its share of criminal rebels, who Gaddafi kept under control with force, but they were few in numbers. This action is more forceful that what president Carter did in the late 70's, which put The Ali Khamenei and Saddam Hussein in power. Both these nations were better before the intervention of a US liberal president. But war is bad liberals say. However, when they think the government it too harsh on their people, we must do nation building. Just ask any liberal, and look where it gets us. The problem is, we take steps based on our culture, without really understanding the implications on their culture.

    I really feel for the good people of Libya who just want to go about their day to day lives. Both Iran and Iraq were once world class nations as well, but western culture didn't understand theirs, and had to improve it... Wow...

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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    My views on president Obomba have changed little since I first heard him speak. When he joined the UN in attacking Libya a few years back, I was absolutely appalled. His actions never surprised me since. I'll bet the UN would have never done such a attack without us. Libya was becoming a first world nation, and I think the elitists who control our global first world governments were afraid.

    Granted, Libya had its share of criminal rebels, who Gaddafi kept under control with force, but they were few in numbers. This action is more forceful that what president Carter did in the late 70's, which put The Ali Khamenei and Saddam Hussein in power. Both these nations were better before the intervention of a US liberal president. But war is bad liberals say. However, when they think the government it too harsh on their people, we must do nation building. Just ask any liberal, and look where it gets us. The problem is, we take steps based on our culture, without really understanding the implications on their culture.

    I really feel for the good people of Libya who just want to go about their day to day lives. Both Iran and Iraq were once world class nations as well, but western culture didn't understand theirs, and had to improve it... Wow...

    Yeah, I have been keeping an eye out to see if they go to evacuate the Embassy in Tripoli. Already many others are closing their from the West and vacating.

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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Ok, who released the new internet video?
    I'm asking the same question.

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    Re: State Department urges Americans to leave Libya Immediately.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Check that.....we are preparing to evacuate and take care of any Business we need to.....to get our people out if necessary. US Marines are mobilizing as we speak. Hu-ah.



    Marines and sailors with Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response conduct helicopter rope suspension training from an MV-22B Osprey at Morón Air Base


    A Marine crisis-response team has deployed additional aircraft to Sicily as it awaits orders for a possible evacuation of American officials in Libya.

    Seven Ospreys and three KC-130s from an air base in Spain have been positioned at U.S. Naval Air Station Sigonella, Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby told reporters Tuesday. Another Osprey would soon be arriving, the Pentagon said.

    About 180 Marines and sailors with the team were moved last week with six aircraft from Morón Air Base in Spain; there are now 250 Marines there. The move was in response to growing concerns over militia battles in northern Libya and their proximity to Americans at the embassy in Tripoli. Several countries, including Saudi Arabia and Algeria, have already closed their diplomatic missions in Tripoli. <<<<< !

    Kirby said there have been no requests for assistance from the Marines in Sigonella. But if called on to help with evacuations of U.S. diplomatic personnel or other requirements, he said the team is “in a posture and in a location that should they be needed in North Africa, specifically Libya, that they would be ready to do so.”

    The battles in Libya come after fighters loyal to a former regime general and later rebel leader attacked Islamist militias in the eastern city of Benghazi and the parliament in Tripoli. The general, Khalifa Heftar, has long opposed the Islamist groups that have dominated the country’s east since the 2011 ouster of the Moammar Gadhafi regime. Other militias and groups have mobilized and vowed support for each side since the fighting began on Friday, leading to concerns that the violence is more serious than the skirmishes common between groups in recent years.....snip~

    Aircraft sent to Italy for possible Libya evacuation - News - Stripes
    Apparently its a "exercise mission" that has been in the works for a while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT-hy-f1MVM


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