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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Talk about switching the goal posts.


    You did not indicate they simply lacked the power to completely destroy us. You indicated a VERY M.A.D-like attitude that their fear of retaliation would stop them from attacking us tobegin with.

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    A little honesty here might be in order.
    Yes a fear of retaliation will keep them from attacking us directly, but that is not M.A.D in and of itself. That's part of M.A.D, or Mutually Assured Destruction, which isfear of retaliation on both sides and an assurance that both sides would be destroyed in the event of a conflict. That's not the case here, since Iran cannot destroy us there is no mutual assurance, and thus its not truly a M.A.D scenario.

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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    The Mullahs aren't the only power in Iran, and they certainly want to hang onto their own power as much as any other powerful person. What I'm talking about isn't M.A.D though, since Iran lacks the power to truly destroy us any attack by them, even a nuclear one, would be severely damaging but would ultimately not destroy us.
    It's not Iran, it's Islam.

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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's not Iran, it's Islam.
    Exactly.

    He makes the amateurish mistake of thinking they see themselves as representing a nation-state instead of the Ummah.
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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, all but said on Sunday that negotiations over the country’s illicit nuclear program are over and that the Islamic Republic’s ideals include destroying America.

    “Those (Iranians) who want to promote negotiation and surrender to the oppressors and blame the Islamic Republic as a warmonger in reality commit treason,” Khamenei told a meeting of members of parliament, according to the regime’s Fars News Agency.



    Khamenei emphasized that without a combative mindset, the regime cannot reach its higher Islamic role against the “oppressors’ front.” “The reason for continuation of this battle is not the warmongering of the Islamic Republic. Logic and reason command that for Iran, in order to pass through a region full of pirates, needs to arm itself and must have the capability to defend itself,” he said.

    “Today’s world is full of thieves and plunderers of human honor, dignity and morality who are equipped with knowledge, wealth and power, and under the pretence of humanity easily commit crimes and betray human ideals and start wars in different parts of the world.”

    In response to a question by a parliamentarian on how long this battle will continue, Khamenei said,“Battle and jihad are endless because evil and its front continue to exist. … This battle will only end when the society can get rid of the oppressors’ front with America at the head of it, which has expanded its claws on human mind, body and thought. … This requires a difficult and lengthy struggle and need for great strides.”

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    So now Iran's Leader.....classifies us in with the Israelis. The usual excuse of ALL will be Paradise as long as we get rid of the US and Israel. So be it.....let them bring it on. They might want to start sending out and SOS for the Klingons to come and help out.


    Doesn't he just make ya want to walk up and put your foot off into his ass. Right when he gets done. I know one reaction he would have.
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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Just a few more years and those old bastards will be dead.
    With many young and equally fanatical bastards to take their place. And they are everywhere.

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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    When did they say they were going to nuke Israel?

    So far there is no actual evidence has been presented that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. Only screaming. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/wo...bomb.html?_r=0)

    "January 31, 2012 - In Senate testimony James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence, says there's no evidence Iran is building a nuclear bomb. CIA director David Petraeus agrees." (Iran's Nuclear Capabilities Fast Facts - CNN.com)

    "he first part of the agency’s November 8 report declares—once again—that Iran is not transferring uranium for use in a military project." (On Iran, an Unsmoking Nongun)
    January of 2012. My God, that's two and a half years ago. That's an eternity in weapons development.
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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    The Mullahs aren't the only power in Iran, and they certainly want to hang onto their own power as much as any other powerful person. What I'm talking about isn't M.A.D though, since Iran lacks the power to truly destroy us any attack by them, even a nuclear one, would be severely damaging but would ultimately not destroy us.
    the Mullahs aren't the only power in Iran, but they are the only one that matters.
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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It depends on who is President. Can you see Obama responding in any serious way?
    who has attacked us that has not received a response since Obama has been President?
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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    the Mullahs aren't the only power in Iran, but they are the only one that matters.
    No they aren't the only power that matters, there's a reason there was a noted shift in Iran's willingness to come to the table about its nukes after Rouhami was elected, he's not as bonkers as Ahmadinejad

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    re: Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    With many young and equally fanatical bastards to take their place. And they are everywhere.
    Mainstream iranians aren't that zealous. They want a moderate islamic state engaged with the west. They want to move forward not back. Iran also has really odd demographics. Old people and young people and nobody in the middle.

    What exactly are y'all so afraid of? Iran is small and won't ever have more than a couple nukes, the use of would result in their total destruction. Don't see that happening.

    Much more likely they just don't want to be trampled like we tend to trample the non-nuclear. If you were iran you'd want a nuke too.
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