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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    No one said removing Saddam would stop all violence there; violence is ingrained in their culture. But what it did was stop a man who during his reign had possibly 200,000 Iraqis brutally murdered by his Iraqi Gulag.

    It is estimated that he was responsible for around 900,000 Iraqi deaths during his reign. Did he need to go? Yes, absolutely.

    And there have been massive changes. They aren't hard to see. Saying nothing changes is incorrect at best and ignorant at worst.
    And how many civilians died in the war and subsequent occupation/terrorism? Hundreds of thousands. Like I said, more of the same, the only difference is instead of one guy to go after, you now have thousdands. Yeah, that's much better.

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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    It is better. You no longer having a dictator committing mass genocide. How is getting rid of that dictator a bad thing?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And how many civilians died in the war and subsequent occupation/terrorism? Hundreds of thousands. Like I said, more of the same, the only difference is instead of one guy to go after, you now have thousdands. Yeah, that's much better.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And how many civilians died in the war and subsequent occupation/terrorism? Hundreds of thousands. Like I said, more of the same, the only difference is instead of one guy to go after, you now have thousdands. Yeah, that's much better.
    As we know it was Muslims murdering Muslims which contributed to the high death toll in Iraq and that continues. The 'root cause' of modern terrorism is Islamism, not Americans or any of the other democracies..

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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    As we know it was Muslims murdering Muslims which contributed to the high death toll in Iraq and that continues. The 'root cause' of modern terrorism is Islamism, not Americans or any of the other democracies..
    Disposing Saddaam allowed far more terrorists into the country killing civilians so yes that is a DIRECT result of the U.S. getting rid of Saddam. The hypocrisy is that there are DOZENS of countries with dictators you and other Cons don't give two shakes of a piss about. Yet because Iraq is in the ME you want to plant our flag there.

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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    It is better. You no longer having a dictator committing mass genocide. How is getting rid of that dictator a bad thing?
    No it isn't because you had THOUSANDS of terrorists commiting mass genocide. So instead of having ONE person you had thousands. Violence is STILL going on today because of it.

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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No it isn't because you had THOUSANDS of terrorists commiting mass genocide. So instead of having ONE person you had thousands. Violence is STILL going on today because of it.
    Violence will continue as long as you have a cult of billions who believe that the world must bend to the will of their fake god.
    Islam is an antiquated religion and needs to either modernize with the times or be completely eradicated.
    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    No. Disposing Saddam gave a repressed people the chance to fight for a more fair government. If you wanted to argue that the government we tried to help put in place was wrong, I would be more apt to agree with you there.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Disposing Saddaam allowed far more terrorists into the country killing civilians so yes that is a DIRECT result of the U.S. getting rid of Saddam. The hypocrisy is that there are DOZENS of countries with dictators you and other Cons don't give two shakes of a piss about. Yet because Iraq is in the ME you want to plant our flag there.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    The difference being that now you have people fighting for their place in their own country instead of having one man kill hundreds of thousands of people just because they wanted the option to be able to choose who was in charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No it isn't because you had THOUSANDS of terrorists commiting mass genocide. So instead of having ONE person you had thousands. Violence is STILL going on today because of it.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Disposing Saddaam allowed far more terrorists into the country killing civilians so yes that is a DIRECT result of the U.S. getting rid of Saddam. The hypocrisy is that there are DOZENS of countries with dictators you and other Cons don't give two shakes of a piss about. Yet because Iraq is in the ME you want to plant our flag there.
    You appear to contradict yourself here. It was the "Cons" like me who wanted an end to the genocide, the rape rooms, the mass graves, the damage to the environment, and so on, while you "progressives" wanted to maintain all of the above.

    You can blame the Islamists for entering the country and murdering civilians but no one else.

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    Re: Iranís Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More..... [W:118]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No it isn't because you had THOUSANDS of terrorists commiting mass genocide. So instead of having ONE person you had thousands. Violence is STILL going on today because of it.
    Violence is still going on because Islamists want to continue the spread of Islam, and they would be doing that no matter what happened in Iraq. It could be argued that Barrack Obama is making their job a lot easier.

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