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UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

MaggieD said:
Are you calling BS because I never witnessed anyone peeing their pants in school??
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Yes.

MaggieD said:
There's something wrong with you...or maybe something wrong with the school you went to.
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That is a possibility. Maybe that is the reason that I am so shocked that nobody has ever heard of a kid peeing their pants. I have heard of it happening a lot.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
I doubt that. I'm sure that is exactly why the teacher came up with this system.
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If this is the reason he/she came up with the system, it doesn't work. It punishes the child who hasn't earned enough tokens to use the bathroom, and earning tokens to use the bathroom is ridiculous.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Yes.

That is a possibility. Maybe that is the reason that I am so shocked that nobody has ever heard of a kid peeing their pants. I have heard of it happening a lot.
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I like that, Vasude -- acknowledging the possibility that your experience wasn't the norm. (Maybe mine wasn't...?) But my experience is the way to the light. ;) ;)
 
MaggieD said:
I like that, Vasude -- acknowledging the possibility that your experience wasn't the norm. (Maybe mine wasn't...?) But my experience is the way to the light. ;) ;)
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Since I grew up in the backwoods of the mountains of Northern Alabama, it is more likely that my experience wasn't normal.
 
c'mon people
here is a key phrase within that cite:
no child was ever denied the opportunity to use the bathroom
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the student wanted popcorn and chose not to spend her available fake currency on a bathroom pass
the student thought getting popcorn was more important than not wetting her pants in class

and her mom will do everyone a favor by home schooling her kid
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Keep your child at home. There are home schooling options. If the school isn't good enough for your precious genius that never tries to scam the teacher, then don't waste the teachers time.

You are being completely irrational and selfish. I think parents who criticize teachers for trivial things should be hung up by their arms and horsewhipped in front of all the other parents. Stop dumbing down our children with your lack of respect for education. Go teach your kid to climb a tree or something.

If you want dumb kids, that's fine but the whole nation doesn't have to be dumb. That isn't fair to anybody.
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Classy post. Dumb kids? I thought this was about peeing, not kids' brains?
 
MaggieD said:
Is there some indication that these kids used the bathroom excessively?
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The source material indicates it was perceived as continued issue, and yes, it is commonly an issue of concern.
 
tres borrachos said:
Classy post. Dumb kids? I thought this was about peeing, not kids' brains?
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It's about letting kids do whatever they want to do versus forcing them to learn. Just ask any kid. School sucks. It is supposed to suck. It is a place to challenge your brain to exercise new skills that you will be unable to do unless you practice constantly. Some parents don't appreciate what school is designed to do and it really pisses me off. They would rather make a mockery out of our teachers by whining about pee breaks.

If we are going to have a public school system then it should be a good one. We shouldn't be required to accomodate the lowest common denominator. F*** those parents that disrespect the schools, disrespect our teachers, disrespect the concept of education and disrespect the future of our country.

Schools should be allowed to ignore these retards instead of dumbing down the education process just to make a few emotional basket cases smile and give their friends high fives for beating that arrogant teacher.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
It's about letting kids do whatever they want to do versus forcing them to learn. Just ask any kid. School sucks. It is supposed to suck. It is a place to challenge your brain to exercise new skills that you will be unable to do unless you practice constantly. Some parents don't appreciate what school is designed to do and it really pisses me off. They would rather make a mockery out of our teachers by whining about pee breaks.

If we are going to have a public school system then it should be a good one. We shouldn't be required to accomodate the lowest common denominator. F*** those parents that disrespect the schools, disrespect our teachers, disrespect the concept of education and disrespect the future of our country.

Schools should be allowed to ignore these retards instead of dumbing down the education process just to make a few irrational emotional basket cases rule the school.
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Very dramatic.

They don't dole out pee breaks in my kids' schools sparingly or for Monopoly money so I don't have a problem with my kids' schools or their teachers.
 
tres borrachos said:
Very dramatic.

They don't dole out pee breaks in my kids' schools sparingly or for Monopoly money so I don't have a problem with my kids' schools or their teachers.
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Most sensible people respect the teachers. You sound sensible. Why are you advocating for the torture, death and burial of this teacher that you know absolutely nothing about? Only the student, the teacher and the other students have all the details of this situation. We know nothing except the bias of the writer who published this story. It's not quite fair to put someone on trial for doing their job. Have you ever made a mistake at your job? If so, do you think you deserve to be punished severely just to appease some idiot who complained about your mistake?

Shouldn't the criteria for discipline be based upon something more than providing the desired level of entertainment simply for the onlookers? Shouldn't justice be considered as a valid goal as well? Entertainment shouldn't be the only reason that we punish people.
 
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vasuderatorrent said:
It's about letting kids do whatever they want to do versus forcing them to learn. Just ask any kid. School sucks. It is supposed to suck. It is a place to challenge your brain to exercise new skills that you will be unable to do unless you practice constantly. Some parents don't appreciate what school is designed to do and it really pisses me off. They would rather make a mockery out of our teachers by whining about pee breaks.

If we are going to have a public school system then it should be a good one. We shouldn't be required to accomodate the lowest common denominator. F*** those parents that disrespect the schools, disrespect our teachers, disrespect the concept of education and disrespect the future of our country.

Schools should be allowed to ignore these retards instead of dumbing down the education process just to make a few emotional basket cases smile and give their friends high fives for beating that arrogant teacher.
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I mean, I appreciate the sentiment of supporting teachers as much as I like being skeptical of education professionals (and those who personally know me would be able to attest that I have a history of being skeptical), but don't you think this is a bit overly dramatic?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Most sensible people respect the teachers. You sound sensible. Why are you advocating for the torture, death and burial of this teacher that you know absolutely nothing about? Only the student, the teacher and the other students have all the details of this situation. We know nothing except the bias of the writer who published this story. It's not quite fair to put someone on trial for doing their job. Have you ever made a mistake at your job? If so, do you think you deserve to be punished severely just to appease some idiot who complained about your mistake?

Shouldn't the criteria for discipline be based upon something more than providing the desired level of entertainment simply for the onlookers? Shouldn't justice be considered as a valid goal as well? Entertainment shouldn't be the only reason that we punish people.
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I don't remember advocating for the torture of this teacher. When did I do that?

I make plenty of mistakes at my job. I don't ever recall making a mistake that involved forbidding one of my employees from using the bathroom.

My kids love school and tend to do well, but they have made mistakes and broken rules at odd times as most kids have. When any of their schools call me to say one of them did something wrong, I believe the schools. Kids need to be punished when they do something wrong. They don't need to be punished for having to go to the bathroom. JMO.
 
tres borrachos said:
I don't remember advocating for the torture of this teacher. When did I do that?

I make plenty of mistakes at my job. I don't ever recall making a mistake that involved forbidding one of my employees from using the bathroom.

My kids love school and tend to do well, but they have made mistakes and broken rules at odd times as most kids have. When any of their schools call me to say one of them did something wrong, I believe the schools. Kids need to be punished when they do something wrong. They don't need to be punished for having to go to the bathroom. JMO.
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So you are cool with it?
 
Moderator's Warning:
Stop talking about each other and stick to discussing the OP.
 
MaggieD said:
Is there some indication that these kids used the bathroom excessively?
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Nothing about these two kids specifically, but there was a mention that the class as a whole had a problem with it

PS - we had a kid pee his pants in my 1st grade class. Just one.
 
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sangha said:
PS - we had a kid pee his pants in my 1st grade class. Just one.
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I only remember one incident of this when I was in first grade too. Now that I have been thinking about this topic a lot over the last few hours I am starting to wonder.

Were there more kids in my class that pee'd themselves but somehow managed to keep it a secret?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
This is stupid. Can the student go 25 times a day in order to get out of doing their school work? This is a complex issue that hasn't been resolved since the invention of mass education. We are still trying to master this problem. No magic solution has been found yet. That is why this teacher shouldn't be criticized. She tried. It didn't work. Some teachers have not tried and just gave up on classroom order. Just give everybody an A and let them do whatever they want to do. F*** teaching the kids. Teachers will just be criticized by overbearing parents that take priority in their child's comfort over their education. Why should they even try? Just give everybody an A and receive no criticism at all. That is the smartest option for a teacher and many of them have taken that route. Not the teacher in the OP and I applaud her for that.

School is not supposed to be comfortable. You are learning new concepts that requires effort to master. School is uncomforable. If being comfortable is priority we should allow parents to choose an alternative such as babysitting services versus education.

If that were the case; these little girls would have been enrolled in the babysitting service and could pee as much as they wanted. They could go to the bathroom any time to avoid the uncomfortable situation of working at their studies.
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I can't believe anyone here would support these stupid teachers with there stupid, BS rules. I told my children that if they ever needed to go to the bathroom and the teacher would not allow it, to walk out of class and let me worry about the repercussions. They were never put into such a ridiculous situation as these children, so we never had any problem with the school.
 
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