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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    When I was in 6th grade, my classes were so far apart that I literally couldn't run thru the crowded halls fast enough to get there without being late. My teacher kept sending me to the Dean, who kept paddling me, hard. One day, I came home and couldn't sit down, when my father inquired what was happening. After I explained that the teacher and Dean didn't want to hear my reasoning for being late, my dad called the Dean and said, if he laid another hand on me, my father would kick his ass. My old man was a big dude and not clumsy. They finally believed me and changed my classes around, and I was never tardy again.

    It should've never happened, even once, but the school had inflexible rules and didn't want to listen to a legitimate excuse. Some common sense and caring go a long ways in most situations.
    Exactly right. (sounds like me and your dad might have some traits in common btw...lol)

    I found that crap so extremely frustrating. The administration and teachers in public schools often treat kids like things, a group with a single identity instead of individuals. They don't listen to individual circumstances when dealing with an individual which is bad enough but they often resort to bully tactics like this teacher did. I find this not only ineffective when trying to stop undesirable behavior I actually think it's destructive or damaging. I realize that kids typically get past that stuff, it's not debilitating or anything but that doesn't mean any of those instances should be ignored. I'm also not suggesting no discipline. I do believe a person can be taught how following a reasonable rule benefits them and from that will be encouraged to make that choice of their own free will rather than being frightened or humiliated into doing it.
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Supposedly, the teacher would've let the child go, if it were an emergency. But the little girl only had $50 left of class money and wanted to buy some popcorn with it later, so she peed herself. Now a little kid choosing a treat over the bathroom is not a surprise but a teacher using that as a ransom on a student is SO stupid.
    Sounds as if the teacher allowed the child to make her own choice ( as has become quite the child rearing mantra in the last 2-3 decades ) ..... the child then learned something... AND... so did the teacher

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Apparently, from the article/link I provided, it happened in WA state. Not to denigrate a whole area, because I really like certain ecological concerns of the left coast, but they can come up with some ignorant ideas sometimes.
    Good thing you decided not to denigrate a whole area..


    But you must be right. One ignorant teacher is representative of the 50 million or so people who live on the 'left coast'.
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If some ****ing teacher made my 3 kids pay to use the bathroom, that person would have real trouble with me.
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I'm here pointing out an error in your argument.

    You gotta problem with that?
    Not at all. But my argument about not preventing a child from using the bathroom had to do with potential harm. So no, there is no error in my argument at all.

    So what's your opinion on the topic? Do you think teachers should charge kids to use the bathrooms?

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And we obviously differ on the capability of a child to know when he/she is at risk of a potential medical emergency.
    Fiddley wasn't speaking or even referring to a medical emergency and he has attempted to clarify that point which you seem to be ignoring. He was referring to the fact that yes children do know when they need to use the restroom "now". There is nothing remotely medical about that. The concept of the bathroom pass is probably as old as schools. They were their before I was in school. I am pretty sure with rare exception almost all children know when they need to use the restroom.
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I don't have kids, but yes, students in the state often present a scarcely supplied material to teachers to then be granted access to the restroom when emergencies are not otherwise present. Either this, some other mechanism, or the traditional "yes/no" system from teachers apply.

    It is common place throughout the country.
    We must live in vastly different areas. Nowhere that I have ever lived to teachers get to charge kids to use the bathrooms. Thank goodness it doesn't happen in my town.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Charging to use the restroom puts new meaning in entre-poo-neur.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Fiddley wasn't speaking or even referring to a medical emergency and he has attempted to clarify that point which you seem to be ignoring. He was referring to the fact that yes children do know when they need to use the restroom "now". There is nothing remotely medical about that. The concept of the bathroom pass is probably as old as schools. They were their before I was in school. I am pretty sure with rare exception almost all children know when they need to use the restroom.
    I have a teenager who was born with kidney issues, if you must know. I can assure you when he was 7, he didn't know the impact a UTI could have on him, which is what he gets when he holds his urine. If a teacher forbade him from using the rest room, he would have a medical emergency. Pretty simple.

    I agree with the others that some things shouldn't be chargeable, and I have an opinion that some things also shouldn't be dangerous.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We must live in vastly different areas. Nowhere that I have ever lived to teachers get to charge kids to use the bathrooms. Thank goodness it doesn't happen in my town.
    Perhaps you don't know each of the teacher's restroom policies. Perhaps you are correct. I cannot even begin to suggest that you are wrong. It's up the administration and usually the instructor to create such policies. The concept of issuing, say, 10 passes a quarter for non-emergency restroom or faucet use is incredibly common. Mixing it with other rewards (pizza, popcorn), is not, however.
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