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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I very much understand the use of the word emergency.

    No, emergency means the 7 year old could be physically harmed by holding in his urine. There are many risks involved.
    But you can likely trust a student to understand the concept of imminent excretion, right?

    The crux of the issue seems to be, as Grip was so astute to point out, that the mixing of other rewards with the bathroom privileges caused the conflict of interest.
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Are we truly becoming this stupid, to let little kids pee in their pants because we can't find a different way to teach?
    If they're abusing bathroom breaks, they can be cut back without humiliating them.
    Going to the bathroom should not be seen as a privilege but rather the right of the student.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Yea, I wouldn't expect to see that in a 3rd world country, more less the US. Using bathroom privileges as a tool to teach children how to respect money? They'll grow up as the Port-A-Let Kings of the industry.
    it wasn't so much that as it was that kids earned dollars that they could spend on whatever they wanted that included treats such as popcorn or candy.

    of course to a 3rd grader they are going to want candy and popcorn. they are not going to think about going to the bathroom until they have to go.
    now they get bathroom breaks during the day going to lunch and stuff but this is in class room breaks.

    to me this is a stupid idea. no 3rd grader is going to save money for a bathroom break when there is candy and popcorn they could get later.

    it also doesn't surprise me that this teach won't be punished that is the union for you.

    funny though because parents have lost their kids over letting them run around in wet or dirty diapers. this teacher lets kids pee in their pants or worse and nothing is done.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    it wasn't so much that as it was that kids earned dollars that they could spend on whatever they wanted that included treats such as popcorn or candy.

    of course to a 3rd grader they are going to want candy and popcorn. they are not going to think about going to the bathroom until they have to go.
    now they get bathroom breaks during the day going to lunch and stuff but this is in class room breaks.

    to me this is a stupid idea. no 3rd grader is going to save money for a bathroom break when there is candy and popcorn they could get later.

    it also doesn't surprise me that this teach won't be punished that is the union for you.

    funny though because parents have lost their kids over letting them run around in wet or dirty diapers. this teacher lets kids pee in their pants or worse and nothing is done.
    I'm all for teaching kids manners, respect and discipline but there's right and wrong ways. They let kids holler and scream in public, tear up a retail stores products but make them piss themselves. Sounds like our politicians trying to run the gov't as the 3 Stooges.
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    But you can likely trust a student to understand the concept of imminent excretion, right?

    The crux of the issue seems to be, as Grip was so astute to point out, that the mixing of other rewards with the bathroom privileges caused the conflict of interest.
    You can't trust a child to decide what is a potential medical emergency. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Conflict of interest isn't relevant to me when it's a child's well being, especially if that child happened to be mine.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Going to the bathroom should not be seen as a privilege but rather the right of the student.
    We're in deep trouble if bodily functions are now being doled on a pay per use basis.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You can't trust a child to decide what is a potential medical emergency. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Again, the basic concept was that the student would let a teacher know of impending excretion.

    Conflict of interest isn't relevant to me when it's a child's well being, especially if that child happened to be mine.
    It was relevant to the incident.
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Again, the basic concept was that the student would let a teacher know of impending excretion.



    It was relevant to the incident.
    And we obviously differ on the capability of a child to know when he/she is at risk of a potential medical emergency.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We're in deep trouble if bodily functions are now being doled on a pay per use basis.
    I'm sure teachers have only now started to manage and monitor student restroom visits.
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And we obviously differ on the capability of a child to know when he/she is at risk of a potential medical emergency.
    No, what seems to have happened is you're conflating the two uses of "emergency."
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