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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Very dramatic.

    They don't dole out pee breaks in my kids' schools sparingly or for Monopoly money so I don't have a problem with my kids' schools or their teachers.
    Most sensible people respect the teachers. You sound sensible. Why are you advocating for the torture, death and burial of this teacher that you know absolutely nothing about? Only the student, the teacher and the other students have all the details of this situation. We know nothing except the bias of the writer who published this story. It's not quite fair to put someone on trial for doing their job. Have you ever made a mistake at your job? If so, do you think you deserve to be punished severely just to appease some idiot who complained about your mistake?

    Shouldn't the criteria for discipline be based upon something more than providing the desired level of entertainment simply for the onlookers? Shouldn't justice be considered as a valid goal as well? Entertainment shouldn't be the only reason that we punish people.
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    It's about letting kids do whatever they want to do versus forcing them to learn. Just ask any kid. School sucks. It is supposed to suck. It is a place to challenge your brain to exercise new skills that you will be unable to do unless you practice constantly. Some parents don't appreciate what school is designed to do and it really pisses me off. They would rather make a mockery out of our teachers by whining about pee breaks.

    If we are going to have a public school system then it should be a good one. We shouldn't be required to accomodate the lowest common denominator. F*** those parents that disrespect the schools, disrespect our teachers, disrespect the concept of education and disrespect the future of our country.

    Schools should be allowed to ignore these retards instead of dumbing down the education process just to make a few emotional basket cases smile and give their friends high fives for beating that arrogant teacher.
    I mean, I appreciate the sentiment of supporting teachers as much as I like being skeptical of education professionals (and those who personally know me would be able to attest that I have a history of being skeptical), but don't you think this is a bit overly dramatic?
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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    don't you think this is a bit overly dramatic?
    Apparently it is.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Most sensible people respect the teachers. You sound sensible. Why are you advocating for the torture, death and burial of this teacher that you know absolutely nothing about? Only the student, the teacher and the other students have all the details of this situation. We know nothing except the bias of the writer who published this story. It's not quite fair to put someone on trial for doing their job. Have you ever made a mistake at your job? If so, do you think you deserve to be punished severely just to appease some idiot who complained about your mistake?

    Shouldn't the criteria for discipline be based upon something more than providing the desired level of entertainment simply for the onlookers? Shouldn't justice be considered as a valid goal as well? Entertainment shouldn't be the only reason that we punish people.
    I don't remember advocating for the torture of this teacher. When did I do that?

    I make plenty of mistakes at my job. I don't ever recall making a mistake that involved forbidding one of my employees from using the bathroom.

    My kids love school and tend to do well, but they have made mistakes and broken rules at odd times as most kids have. When any of their schools call me to say one of them did something wrong, I believe the schools. Kids need to be punished when they do something wrong. They don't need to be punished for having to go to the bathroom. JMO.

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't remember advocating for the torture of this teacher. When did I do that?

    I make plenty of mistakes at my job. I don't ever recall making a mistake that involved forbidding one of my employees from using the bathroom.

    My kids love school and tend to do well, but they have made mistakes and broken rules at odd times as most kids have. When any of their schools call me to say one of them did something wrong, I believe the schools. Kids need to be punished when they do something wrong. They don't need to be punished for having to go to the bathroom. JMO.
    So you are cool with it?

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    re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

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    Re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Is there some indication that these kids used the bathroom excessively?
    Nothing about these two kids specifically, but there was a mention that the class as a whole had a problem with it

    PS - we had a kid pee his pants in my 1st grade class. Just one.
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    Re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    PS - we had a kid pee his pants in my 1st grade class. Just one.
    I only remember one incident of this when I was in first grade too. Now that I have been thinking about this topic a lot over the last few hours I am starting to wonder.

    Were there more kids in my class that pee'd themselves but somehow managed to keep it a secret?

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    Re: UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    This is stupid. Can the student go 25 times a day in order to get out of doing their school work? This is a complex issue that hasn't been resolved since the invention of mass education. We are still trying to master this problem. No magic solution has been found yet. That is why this teacher shouldn't be criticized. She tried. It didn't work. Some teachers have not tried and just gave up on classroom order. Just give everybody an A and let them do whatever they want to do. F*** teaching the kids. Teachers will just be criticized by overbearing parents that take priority in their child's comfort over their education. Why should they even try? Just give everybody an A and receive no criticism at all. That is the smartest option for a teacher and many of them have taken that route. Not the teacher in the OP and I applaud her for that.

    School is not supposed to be comfortable. You are learning new concepts that requires effort to master. School is uncomforable. If being comfortable is priority we should allow parents to choose an alternative such as babysitting services versus education.

    If that were the case; these little girls would have been enrolled in the babysitting service and could pee as much as they wanted. They could go to the bathroom any time to avoid the uncomfortable situation of working at their studies.
    I can't believe anyone here would support these stupid teachers with there stupid, BS rules. I told my children that if they ever needed to go to the bathroom and the teacher would not allow it, to walk out of class and let me worry about the repercussions. They were never put into such a ridiculous situation as these children, so we never had any problem with the school.

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