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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Funny, I personally never thought that I lacked the courage of my convictions simply because I wasn't a card-carrying member of a political collective. Maybe libertarians who are members of the Democrat Party and the Republican Party are trying to expand access to the libertarian view of things rather than simply living in an echo chamber of like-minded, closed-minded souls.
    There are no libertarians in the Democratic Party - those who reside under the umbrella of the term libertarian can hold a great variety of views on a many subjects, but one thing that unites all libertarians is that government should not be positive. No Democrat believes that.

    There are many special interests lurking within the Democratic Party, but each and every one of them wants something from government - they want government to do something for them, and/or against someone else... whatever their motivation doesn't matter. They want to wield government for their own ends.

    Most Republicans are the same as every Democrat - only with different special interests to cater to. That said, what libertarians there are in Washington, they do reside in the Republican Party; but they are so few in number as to be inconsequential.

    The one thing that the core of both the Republican and Democratic Parties have in common is that neither has any use for the rule of law. The Constitution means nothing to the majority of both parties - just as it means nothing to most Americans.

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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, CJ!

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    They came close with Clint Eastwood butcher job last time and lots of people noticed the sacrifice.
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    My preference for Bing is personal. It is the largest search engine other than Google. Google threw me off their search engine a couple of years ago but I continue to get first page placement on Bing and the other search engines. So my comment is really anti google rather than pro bing - although I do think Bing is a better search tool.

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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, CJ!

    "The major parties could conduct live human sacrifices on their podiums during prime time, and I doubt anyone would notice." Dave Barry
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    There are no libertarians in the Democratic Party - those who reside under the umbrella of the term libertarian can hold a great variety of views on a many subjects, but one thing that unites all libertarians is that government should not be positive. No Democrat believes that.

    There are many special interests lurking within the Democratic Party, but each and every one of them wants something from government - they want government to do something for them, and/or against someone else... whatever their motivation doesn't matter. They want to wield government for their own ends.

    Most Republicans are the same as every Democrat - only with different special interests to cater to. That said, what libertarians there are in Washington, they do reside in the Republican Party; but they are so few in number as to be inconsequential.

    The one thing that the core of both the Republican and Democratic Parties have in common is that neither has any use for the rule of law. The Constitution means nothing to the majority of both parties - just as it means nothing to most Americans.
    That's a bit of a cynical view, but I can't honestly say it's unfounded.
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    No, it wouldn't. What a truly dizzying intellect.
    At least come up with something original instead of copying me.



    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I just pointed out something that's not explicitly in the constitution that the federal government does. You didn't get that. What a truly dizzying intellect.
    You pointed out something worth ridiculing. Congratulations for doubling down. Let's see if you go for the tri-fecta!

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    You don't understand what the phrase expectation of privacy has to do with this, do you? What a truly dizzying intellect.
    Tri-fecta!

    Aww.... don't worry you'll get better.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And I am talking about frauds who do not even have the courage of their supposed convictions. Ron Paul included.
    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Its one thing to have the ideology, but the article read "House libertarains" of which there are none. If a congressman, like Ron Paul when he served, wanted to call themselves libertarians they should have registered as such and not lied to the conservative based Republican party. One of my biggest issues with Ron Paul was his first and most upfront lie - he was never a Republican he was always a Libertarian, but he'd lie about it to get on the "R" ballot since the "L" ballot is worthless and society wholly rejects (by over 98.9%) their extreme views.
    There is nothing that says libertarians must reside within the Libertarian party. Their libertarianism basically boils down to strict Constitutionalism/far right conservatism as well. These people are wholly up front about their views and they get elected.

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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    At least come up with something original instead of copying me.



    You pointed out something worth ridiculing. Congratulations for doubling down. Let's see if you go for the tri-fecta!

    Tri-fecta!

    Aww.... don't worry you'll get better.
    Did your cat walk across the keyboard? Jesus, sorry that professionals and policy makers don't agree with some yokel from the internet lol
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    There is nothing that says libertarians must reside within the Libertarian party. Their libertarianism basically boils down to strict Constitutionalism/far right conservatism as well. These people are wholly up front about their views and they get elected.
    Actually "these people" are about one thing and only one thing and that is power and they know that there is not a snowballs chance in hell of getting it with the Libertarian Party so they put on the costume of the Republican, run under that banner, and hope the voters are fools.

    And they far too often are.

    Sadly, the GOP took in these frauds as a way of expanding their dwindling numbers in hopes of power for themselves. it was like a starving person taking in food for strength. Of course, we all know what happens to that food the next day as it turns to crap and has to be expelled from the system. That waste is now the libertarians in the GOP and they are being expelled into the political toilet as far too many were responsible for the election losses of the last cycle.

    The toilet must be flushed - and I suspect while it will take a few years - it will be done and the libertarian waste pushed out of the system into the political sewer.
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Did your cat walk across the keyboard? Jesus, sorry that professionals and policy makers don't agree with some yokel from the internet lol
    Don't be so hard on yourself.. you're not a yokel.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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