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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    You're welcome.

    It appears that he's trying to say - if we didn't compromise, the bill wouldn't make it through the Senate or maybe even be Vetoed by the President. My oldest son said, that would be fine. At least then the country would know where the Senate and the President stand on freedom, liberty, and the Constitution (specifically the 4th Amendment). I think my son is correct in that. They should have let Harry Reid and Obama explain to the nation why their privacy isn't important anymore and why the Constitution is "just a piece of paper."
    Their indifference on this matter has been conspicuous for quite some time.

    Liberals have been thumping their chests about this since the 2000 election. Haven't you heard?
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    To me, the Dems and Reps are two sides of the same coin...neither can be trusted for a second.

    I assumed that the TSA would be allowed to do more-or-less what it did before.

    I figured the Reps would publicly scream murder but then quietly do little.

    Both party's leaders (imo) LOVE the TSA doing as much spying on Americans as they can possibly con the masses into accepting.

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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Its one thing to have the ideology, but the article read "House libertarains" of which there are none. If a congressman, like Ron Paul when he served, wanted to call themselves libertarians they should have registered as such and not lied to the conservative based Republican party. One of my biggest issues with Ron Paul was his first and most upfront lie - he was never a Republican he was always a Libertarian, but he'd lie about it to get on the "R" ballot since the "L" ballot is worthless and society wholly rejects (by over 98.9%) their extreme views.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Good grief. Did you not read my interactions with haymarket?

    This should all go without saying. There is a "Libertarian" party and "libertarian" ideology. Two separate things.

    Ron Paul is the most notable libertarian Republican.

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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act | Rare

    I want the NAMES of who changed this bill in committee!
    Another perfect example of how rotten the government is, how totally in the control of special interests, how contemptuous of the US Constitution and the rule of law.

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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This thread and the story behind it is based on a LIE. There are no House Libertarians. The people named are Republicans and that is how they were elected and that is their party identification.
    I'm just a Canadian and could be wrong, but I don't believe there's a liberal party in the US Congress, but many call themselves liberals and there isn't a conservative party in the US Congress, yet many call themselves conservatives. The OP speaks to small "l" libertarians, therefore speaking to ideology not political party affiliation - therefore, the only lie appears to be your attempt to change the subject.
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Another perfect example of how rotten the government is, how totally in the control of special interests, how contemptuous of the US Constitution and the rule of law.
    I agree completely.

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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm just a Canadian and could be wrong, but I don't believe there's a liberal party in the US Congress, but many call themselves liberals and there isn't a conservative party in the US Congress, yet many call themselves conservatives. The OP speaks to small "l" libertarians, therefore speaking to ideology not political party affiliation - therefore, the only lie appears to be your attempt to change the subject.
    But there is indeed a LIBERTARIAN PARTY. And it is made up of libertarians who are proud to be called such and have the courage of their convictions.
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But there is indeed a LIBERTARIAN PARTY. And it is made up of libertarians who are proud to be called such and have the courage of their convictions.
    Funny, I personally never thought that I lacked the courage of my convictions simply because I wasn't a card-carrying member of a political collective. Maybe libertarians who are members of the Democrat Party and the Republican Party are trying to expand access to the libertarian view of things rather than simply living in an echo chamber of like-minded, closed-minded souls.
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Funny, I personally never thought that I lacked the courage of my convictions simply because I wasn't a card-carrying member of a political collective. Maybe libertarians who are members of the Democrat Party and the Republican Party are trying to expand access to the libertarian view of things rather than simply living in an echo chamber of like-minded, closed-minded souls.
    Many are simply aware that the Libertarian label at election time on a ballot is equal to a skull and crossbones on a bottle of medicine. So they put on the Halloween costume of the republican and try to fool people. Sorry - but that sort of fundamental dishonesty is not cup of tea. No pun intended.
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    Re: House libertarians blast USA Freedom Act

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Funny, I personally never thought that I lacked the courage of my convictions simply because I wasn't a card-carrying member of a political collective. Maybe libertarians who are members of the Democrat Party and the Republican Party are trying to expand access to the libertarian view of things rather than simply living in an echo chamber of like-minded, closed-minded souls.
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