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    House passes Curbs on NSA Phone Surveillance.....

    In an overwhelming vote, the House moved the U.S. closer to ending the National Security Agency's bulk collection of Americans' phone records Thursday, the most significant demonstration to date of leaker Edward Snowden's impact on the debate over privacy versus security.

    But the final version of the legislation, "watered down" in the words of one supporter, also showed the limits of that impact. The bill was severely weakened to mollify U.S. intelligence agencies, which insisted that the surveillance programs that shocked many Americans are a critical bulwark against terror plots.

    The bill was approved 303-121, which means that most House members can now say they voted to end what many critics consider the most troubling practice Snowden disclosed — the collection and storage of U.S. calling data by the secretive intelligence agency. But almost no other major provision designed to restrict NSA surveillance, including limits on the secret court that grants warrants to search the data, survived the negotiations to get the bill to the House floor.

    Though some privacy activists continued to back the bill, others withdrew support, as did technology companies such as Google and Facebook.

    Other provisions that were dropped from the bill included requirements to estimate the number of Americans whose records were captured under the program, and the creation of a public advocate to challenge the government's legal arguments before the secret surveillance court.

    NSA officials were pleased with the bill for another reason: The new arrangement will give them access to mobile calling records they did not have under the old program.....snip~

    House passes curbs on NSA phone surveillance


    Great.....the NSA will have access to Mobile Phone records now. Note they stopped the creation of public advocates office to challenge before the secret surveillance court. Reaid will end allowing the Senate to pass this. As he said something needed to be done. I would watch out for any addages put in by Senators. What say ye?

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    Re: House passes Curbs on NSA Phone Surveillance.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    In an overwhelming vote, the House moved the U.S. closer to ending the National Security Agency's bulk collection of Americans' phone records Thursday, the most significant demonstration to date of leaker Edward Snowden's impact on the debate over privacy versus security.

    But the final version of the legislation, "watered down" in the words of one supporter, also showed the limits of that impact. The bill was severely weakened to mollify U.S. intelligence agencies, which insisted that the surveillance programs that shocked many Americans are a critical bulwark against terror plots.

    The bill was approved 303-121, which means that most House members can now say they voted to end what many critics consider the most troubling practice Snowden disclosed the collection and storage of U.S. calling data by the secretive intelligence agency. But almost no other major provision designed to restrict NSA surveillance, including limits on the secret court that grants warrants to search the data, survived the negotiations to get the bill to the House floor.

    Though some privacy activists continued to back the bill, others withdrew support, as did technology companies such as Google and Facebook.

    Other provisions that were dropped from the bill included requirements to estimate the number of Americans whose records were captured under the program, and the creation of a public advocate to challenge the government's legal arguments before the secret surveillance court.

    NSA officials were pleased with the bill for another reason: The new arrangement will give them access to mobile calling records they did not have under the old program.....snip~

    House passes curbs on NSA phone surveillance


    Great.....the NSA will have access to Mobile Phone records now. Note they stopped the creation of public advocates office to challenge before the secret surveillance court. Reaid will end allowing the Senate to pass this. As he said something needed to be done. I would watch out for any addages put in by Senators. What say ye?
    The fact the NSA is pleased with this bill should be a indicator that it is not a good bill.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: House passes Curbs on NSA Phone Surveillance.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The fact the NSA is pleased with this bill should be a indicator that it is not a good bill.

    Mornin' JR. Yet look at all the Politicians on both sides saying.....at least they did something. Aint that a bitch.

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    Re: House passes Curbs on NSA Phone Surveillance.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' JR. Yet look at all the Politicians on both sides saying.....at least they did something. Aint that a bitch.
    This is why people shouldn't be electing the same scum over and over again.Power corrupts.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: House passes Curbs on NSA Phone Surveillance.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is why people shouldn't be electing the same scum over and over again.Power corrupts.
    Yeah JR......I was surprised people didn't jump on this. But then again.....all just figures its going to take place anyways. I didn't know they couldn't access mobile phone records before.

    Looks like that's all changed up now.

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