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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    I think this is all really common sense. Our conception of the universe is only minute to what really exists out there. I think its only a matter of time until we find life out there. We have found a lot of evidence of life, but to my knowledge we havent found "actual life". I do believe that there are other intelligent beings out there. But hey, I think we still should continue funding to these programs. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    We won't find life out there and not because it doesn't exist but because warp drives are science fiction.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    'Almost Definitely'?

    Is that like 'maybe for certain'?

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's just pessimism, depression really. As we currently are seeking to end bigotry and cruelty, what makes you think those thousands of years ahead of us are still bigoted assholes?

    Look, an advanced civilization hundreds or millions of light years away is not going to need to rape and pillage the earth for its purposes. That's just stupid. It ignores all human progress, logic and reason.

    Contact with advanced aliens would help us more than computers did. Spare us the Chicken Little BS based on irrational hysteria.
    in the realm in which we exist, everything eats each other. being at the top of the food chain, we are in the minority of organisms in which being eaten by something today isn't a real danger. if a super advanced species pilots a disco lit saucer across the universe, i truly doubt that their motivation will be to hang around the campfire and share technology and societal tips. they would be coming because there's something here that they need. plus, we'd probably do something stupid and attack them anyway, because we are violent primates.

    i truly doubt that we've ever been visited, and i doubt that we will be any time soon. however, the chance that a visit will be beneficial to us is lower than the chance that it could be bad or catastrophic, so i think we should stop advertising to them.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Think if they told congress yea there is no life out there congress would give them more funding?

    They have found ZERO evidence there is life off this planet, mars has produced nothing.

    Man they are working so hard to find life out there just so they can prove there is no God, but the darn evidence just seems to elude them.
    In our own oceans we have found life that exists in extreme environments .. those which lack light, oxygen and even in temperatures that would kill most normal life forms on earth. The sheer mathematical probability of life on other planets is so high that its a near certainty. We are limited by our mortality to our own little spec of space. If christians can say "Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist", then scientists can say it too.

    And who says they are trying to prove there is no god. Are christians that egotistical that they think everything is about them?
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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    in the realm in which we exist, everything eats each other. being at the top of the food chain, we are in the minority of organisms in which being eaten by something today isn't a real danger. if a super advanced species pilots a disco lit saucer across the universe, i truly doubt that their motivation will be to hang around the campfire and share technology and societal tips. they would be coming because there's something here that they need. plus, we'd probably do something stupid and attack them anyway, because we are violent primates.

    i truly doubt that we've ever been visited, and i doubt that we will be any time soon. however, the chance that a visit will be beneficial to us is lower than the chance that it could be bad or catastrophic, so i think we should stop advertising to them.

    Isn't it possible that they are out for knowledge of other species. Explorers just like ourselves?
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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

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    I think this is all really common sense. Our conception of the universe is only minute to what really exists out there. I think its only a matter of time until we find life out there. We have found a lot of evidence of life, but to my knowledge we havent found "actual life". I do believe that there are other intelligent beings out there. But hey, I think we still should continue funding to these programs. [/FONT][/COLOR]


    and it does not ensure a job for life for us to believe these two highly paid SETI researchers in their rather stress - fee job, nope.

    As if researchers looking for something with less hard evidence than Bigfoot would say something else, like, "we're pretty sure we'll spend our lives searching for nothing, but, hey, the perks are awesome!"

    Really
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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Isn't it possible that they are out for knowledge of other species. Explorers just like ourselves?
    sure, it's possible. i just don't find that to be a more likely outcome than something nefarious. and look at what happened to less technically advanced cultures when we explored.

    just seems like a high probability of not good.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    sure, it's possible. i just don't find that to be a more likely outcome than something nefarious. and look at what happened to less technically advanced cultures when we explored.

    just seems like a high probability of not good.
    I understand your thought. Humans are a vicious species, capable of horrible things. I think that a species that has developed the technology to traverse the vast universe might also have evolved above such horrible habits. Then again it could go the other way, perhaps their ability to travel space came from advancements in militaristic technology. After all, most of what we have today is because of our desire to kill each other.
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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

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    Each of these galaxies looked this way millions/billion of years ago and contained billions of stars. Many no longer exist and many new ones would be there today. If there was an advanced civilization in that photo....it is probably long gone and did not even know we existed.
    Yeah....the distances to other stars/galaxies are so vast....mind-boggling actually.
    I don't think we're alone in this universe, but given the insurmountable distances, we might as well be.

    If there is one there is one there now it might see an "I Love Lucy" rerun in a couple billion years, but we will be long gone.
    True enough.
    We'll be gone, but "I Love Lucy" will continue on, in syndication, for all eternity.

    It would be an astounding bit of luck for us to exist in the right place and time to meet the neighbors.
    After seeing Fred and Ethel in reruns, we might not be of much interest to alien beings.
    It could be worse though.
    What if aliens see re-runs of "Gilligan's Island"?
    Rather than wanting to meet the neighbors, they'll avoid us like the plague.
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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The notion is that there is life out there...not that it is possible.
    I do not refute the possibility of extraterrestrial life. I refute the certainty.
    I'm certain about the couple in the next apartment. Nobody born on earth looks that that.

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