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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    A very long time indeed. The chance of finding other life forms in this solar system are about zero. The next solar system is over 4 light years away.
    It would take us 30,000 years to get there using current technology.
    If that fails, the next one is, well............



    So we better start planning our trip now, eh?

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    "almost definitely"

    nearly certain

    mostly positive

    close, but no cigar shaped UFO

    approaching true

    just a hair from actuality

    There are "almost definitely other forms of life in the universe".

    To this I can agree, partially indubitably.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The existence of a billion planets like ours is evidence of life outside the earth. As is the existence of water all over the place. It's indirect evidence, or at least "supports the notion".

    You claimed "a profound lack of any kind of evidence that supports that notion." That's a false statement, as it ignores indirect evidence pointing toward a near certainty of alien life of some kind.
    The volcanic vent ecosystems, which are not based on photosynthesis, demonstrate that life is likely ubiquitous.

    I suspect we will eventually find evidence of a second "tree of life" here. They thought they had a couple years ago, but it turned out to be an extreme adaptation.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Science proves you quite wrong there is a high chance of finding life right here in the solar system
    I'm anxious to see the proof.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I'm anxious to see the proof.
    Pay more attention to science more such proof is being published every day.

    For example in only the last 2 decades we have found life all over this planet in every environment imaginable. It exists in every place we can look where we once thought it could never survive. The deepest holes, the oldest ice, the highest altitudes and the deepest water. None of this proves life exists elsewhere but the extreme environments in which we are finding life increases the odds of it existing elsewhere. The enormous variety and diversity of life also increases the odds.

    The more we learn about the environments on other worlds the more we realize that they are often more benign and habitable than the places we find life here on earth.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Pay more attention to science more such proof is being published every day.

    For example in only the last 2 decades we have found life all over this planet in every environment imaginable. It exists in every place we can look where we once thought it could never survive. The deepest holes, the oldest ice, the highest altitudes and the deepest water. None of this proves life exists elsewhere but the extreme environments in which we are finding life increases the odds of it existing elsewhere. The enormous variety and diversity of life also increases the odds.

    The more we learn about the environments on other worlds the more we realize that they are often more benign and habitable than the places we find life here on earth.
    Nothing you said proves there is life in the solar system beyond our planet nor does it prove that there is any likelihood that such life exists. I pay more attention to science than you can know.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Nothing you said proves there is life in the solar system beyond our planet nor does it prove that there is any likelihood that such life exists. I pay more attention to science than you can know.
    I never said it proves life exists. In fact no one did

    You are quite wrong however concerning the likelyhood which it does prove a greater chance of. The probability of life existing elsewhere is dependant upon factors such as what sort of environment it it POSSIBLE for life to exist in and the more we learn the more we know that those sorts of enviornments are very broad and flexible. By definition that increases the odds.

    Obviously you pay little attention

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Think if they told congress yea there is no life out there congress would give them more funding?

    They have found ZERO evidence there is life off this planet, mars has produced nothing.

    Man they are working so hard to find life out there just so they can prove there is no God, but the darn evidence just seems to elude them.
    So you have an expectation that the government would tell us the truth about extraterrestrials?

    FYI, in case you don't know, NASA works hand-in-hand with the DOD. It's been that way since the very beginning: http://history.nasa.gov/spaceact.html

    Take note of this:
    The Administration shall be considered a defense agency of the United States for the purpose of chapter 17 of title 35 of the United States Code.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    That's nice. Stop trying to contact them, idiots. We need to alert aliens of our presence about as much as native Americans needed to alert Europeans of the presence of North America.

    ****, is Hawking the only person who gets it?
    That's just pessimism, depression really. As we currently are seeking to end bigotry and cruelty, what makes you think those thousands of years ahead of us are still bigoted assholes?

    Look, an advanced civilization hundreds or millions of light years away is not going to need to rape and pillage the earth for its purposes. That's just stupid. It ignores all human progress, logic and reason.

    Contact with advanced aliens would help us more than computers did. Spare us the Chicken Little BS based on irrational hysteria.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    I never said it proves life exists. In fact no one did

    You are quite wrong however concerning the likelyhood which it does prove a greater chance of. The probability of life existing elsewhere is dependant upon factors such as what sort of environment it it POSSIBLE for life to exist in and the more we learn the more we know that those sorts of enviornments are very broad and flexible. By definition that increases the odds.

    Obviously you pay little attention
    Obviously.

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