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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Think if they told congress yea there is no life out there congress would give them more funding?

    They have found ZERO evidence there is life off this planet, mars has produced nothing.

    Man they are working so hard to find life out there just so they can prove there is no God, but the darn evidence just seems to elude them.



    An omnipotent God could create any kind of universe that She wanted to create, including one with millions of inhabited planets.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    I dont think alien life exists period.



    How about really intelligent life on Earth? Have you ever seen any evidence of that?

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Almost huh? almost.

    well its a big universe they will keep searching to no avail.



    If you have any ironclad proof of this I'd like to see it.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Man they are working so hard to find life out there just so they can prove there is no God, but the darn evidence just seems to elude them.
    Lolwat?
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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    I did not say it would disprove I said they would claim.



    What would it take for you to believe those claims?

    How strong is your belief in an Omnipotent God who is happy to let many millions of children die from hunger without raising Her finger?

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Think if they told congress yea there is no life out there congress would give them more funding?

    They have found ZERO evidence there is life off this planet, mars has produced nothing.

    Man they are working so hard to find life out there just so they can prove there is no God, but the darn evidence just seems to elude them.
    The reason they have found zero evidence is that we have barely touched other worlds. We have a ridiculously vast amount of universe to explore and have barely taken a glance at it. An analogy is landing in Cairo and getting off the plane for 5 minutes then claiming we found no evidence that there are no elephants in Africa.

    Mars has in fact produced something. The first unmanned craft landing on MArs had seperate tests for microbial life in the martian soil. The first gave a positive result which was determined as inconclusive. In other words it may have found life or it may have found an unusual chemical reaction. The second test found nothing and gave a negative result. It was only years later that they discovered the equipment used for the second test often fails to find life here on Earth where we know it exists. In fact the failure rate is 50% or more, this of course makes the testing on Mars with this specific method very unreliable.

    As a result of this many experts in the field are pushing for funding for better tests to be used on Mars in the future. Basically Mars is back in the unknown category we can neither confirm it nor rule it out. We also need to look harder at Jupiter and Europa. Jupiter, Europa and Mars look more and more as though they COULD support life as time goes by and learn more about them. They are also tantalizingly close enough to reach.

    I have no idea why you tie religion into this. Finding life on other worlds does not constitute proof that there is no god. In fact one can find no such proof anywhere in the known universe because one cannot prove a negative. SETI has nothing to do with God or religion one way or the other.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Sorry ecofarm but that is distorted logic.
    With the evidence we now have, the probability is that life here is unique .
    If I find a grain of gold on a huge beach of billions of grains of sand I can not assert any probability that I will find another ... no matter how numerous the possibilities are. If I find another gold grain within say a nine square meter section I can assign a probability of finding a third on that beach. But with evidence of only one I can not, no matter how big the beach is.
    Many possibilities does not indicate any change in probabilities.



    Zero possibilities indicates to me that the probability is nil.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Think if they told congress yea there is no life out there congress would give them more funding?

    They have found ZERO evidence there is life off this planet, mars has produced nothing.

    Man they are working so hard to find life out there just so they can prove there is no God, but the darn evidence just seems to elude them.
    What is the point of a vast universe then?

    If we are "it", why create anything but our solar system?
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It would be against logic and reason to presume you found the only existing grain of gold. Nothing else is unique. Why would the grain of gold, or earth life, be.

    You might not find another, and presuming to find one is without support, but assuming no others exist is just dumb.



    Never assume anything.

    Not a good idea. Better to check and verify.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    A very long time indeed. The chance of finding other life forms in this solar system are about zero. The next solar system is over 4 light years away. It would take us 30,000 years to get there using current technology. If that fails, the next one is, well............
    Science proves you quite wrong there is a high chance of finding life right here in the solar system

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