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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    There are creatures on THIS planet that could survive a journey through space. By that measure alone, I believe in life outside of this solar system.

    What is water? It's two parts hydrogen (the most abundant element in the universe) and one part oxygen (more rare, but not overly so). How is it formed?

    Do we really believe these circumstances are so rare that our entire universe has failed to produce more than one example of it?

    There's some pretty loooooong odds on that...
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    I think its only a matter of time until we find life out there.[/FONT][/COLOR]
    A very long time indeed. The chance of finding other life forms in this solar system are about zero. The next solar system is over 4 light years away. It would take us 30,000 years to get there using current technology. If that fails, the next one is, well............

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    That's your opinion which you are entitled to and I agree with, and which a lot of 'born again', flat earth losers on the right will ignore.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    We shouldn't try and find them. Columbus and the Indians springs to mind.
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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Because the galaxy is so vast and theoretically infinite as long as it keeps expanding, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that there is other life out there.

    Its a fact that cannot be escaped.

    What form it takes, well thats a question barring us destroying ourselves we'll be asking for a few more centuries.

    An interesting theory by Tyson is that it's possible life already came, saw what we were and decided we weren't worth the effort.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Microbial life???

    Microbes are transmitting with radio waves? Nonsense, it seems to me.

    This congressional testimony sounds only like an effort to keep the budget for SETI.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    We shouldn't try and find them. Columbus and the Indians springs to mind.



    I hear you.

    If we should find them and they learn what happened to the Native Americans, we might not like what happens to us.




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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    With all that we know of microbial life extremophiles etc etc I would find it extremely hard to belief that there isn't at the very least microbial life out there. If they can carry a microbe out into space with it being exposed directly to space, and it living through several days of that there has got to be other life out there in better conditions than space itself. The only question in my mind is if there is other intelligent life out there.

    This planet has had millions of different kinds of life forms living on it for millions of years and in many different types of environments, from extreme cold and low oxygen content to temperate climate and higher oxygen content than what we have now. Even types of life that are alien to what we have now. To think that there isn't other life forms out there is just arrogant imo.

    As for the whole bible/god thing...nothing about the bible indicates that we are the ONLY life forms that were ever made. No true scientist would even attempt to claim such. And imo doing so would discredit anyone that claimed such.
    I think it's certainly probable that something "living" may exist at some point in infinite time in an infinite universe but the infinite nature of space and time seems to make it pretty probable that we'll never be close enough in time or space to find it.

    I tend to be on the fence for these things. I think space exploration is something the United States government should be funding but I'm not sure the SETI project actually needs governmental funding. It seems to me that these guys could probably get all the funding they needed privately, especially being based so close to Silicon Valley.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    And some of them will likely have Death Stars and be ready to use them.

    In an infinite universe almost anything is possible.

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    Re: Aliens Are Almost Definitely Out There, SETI Astronomers Tell Congress

    The human race has been sending substantial radio signals out to our galactic neighbors for about 100 years. While that is enough time for our signal to have reached hundreds of stars, only 8 of those stars contain planets capable of sustaining life. Outside those 8 planets there is no reason to believe that any intelligent life has heard from us yet, if it exists.

    Ruling out those closest 8 planets, the next closest (and also happens to be the most like Earth) is 472 light years away. They won't be receiving our earliest radio signals until the year 2386, and we couldn't expect a reply until the year 2858.

    For this reason a SETI like program seems to be entirely useless unless we make some dramatic discovery in faster than light communication.

    SETI appears to be driven by the Sagan dream of tapping into some centuries old alien signal that, when decoded, teaches us how to contact them. In other words, it is more a matter of faith than of science.
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