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    Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medical Re

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    CNSNews.com) – The federal government is piecing together a sweeping national “biosurveillance” system that will give bureaucrats near real-time access to Americans’ private medical information in the name of national security, according to Twila Brase, a public health nurse and co-founder of the Citizens Council for Health Freedom.
    The Department of Health and Human Services’ (HHS) Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response is currently seeking public comment on a 52-page draft of the proposed “National Health Security Strategy 2015-2018” (NHSS).

    The deadline for comment is 5 pm EST on May 21st. (See Draft National Health Security Strategy 2015-2018.pdf)

    “Health situational awareness includes biosurveillance and other health and non-health inputs (e.g., lab/diagnostics, health service utilization, active intelligence, and supply chain information), as well as systems and processes for effective communication among responders and critical health resource monitoring and allocation,” the draft states.

    But Brase warns that the NHSS proposal would allow the federal government to monitor an individual’s behavior before, during and after any government-defined health “incident” – which could be anything from a local outbreak of the flu to a terrorist anthrax attack.
    I'm going to reserve judgment for the time being, but I tend to not trust government with information.

    Scope
    Health situational awareness11 281 is the active, continuous, accurate, and timely collection,
    282 analysis, interpretation, and sharing of data from multiple sources to support effective decision-
    283 making before, during, and after an incident with negative health consequences. Health
    situational awareness includes biosurveillance12 284 and other health and nonhealth inputs (e.g.,
    285 lab/diagnostics, health service utilization, active intelligence, and supply chain information, as
    286 shown in Figure 3), as well as systems and processes for effective communication among
    287 responders and critical health resource monitoring and allocation.
    288 Vision
    289 The Nation will continue to develop and maintain a robust capacity for health situational
    290 awareness. Such a capacity will enable decision-makers to identify and understand
    291 environmental and emerging health threats and their potential consequences; to monitor available
    response capabilities and resources; to identify triggers for course correction; and to allocate and
    293 use resources efficiently and effectively. Health situational awareness will include a focus on at-
    294 risk individuals with access and functional needs. It will be user defined depending on what
    295 decision is being made, and by whom, so it will be relevant to different ‘consumers.’ In addition,
    296 health situational awareness will be flexible, adaptive, and dynamic in order to support decision-
    297 makers effectively as situations evolve and their information requirements change.
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    Re: Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medica

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    I'm going to reserve judgment for the time being, but I tend to not trust government with information.
    Well, seeing that you don't trust the government with your information, I do not trust CCHF. Sounds like a right wing disinformation group.

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    • Protection of patient autonomy and dignity through medical record privacy and strong patient consent provisions
    • Reduced dependency on government health care programs
    • Free and open health care market, including Medical Savings Accounts, and non-managed care health insurance options.
    • Market competition at the patient and consumer level.
    • Equal tax treatment for purchase of health care insurance
    • Privately-owned insurance independent from employment
    • Life-long insurance policies.
    • A charitable safety net strengthened through tax incentives
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    Re: Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medica

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    I'm going to reserve judgment for the time being, but I tend to not trust government with information.
    Im not going to reserve judgement-I dont want ANY of this info in govt hands. Enough with big brother, Im sick of feeling like I live in an Orwell novel. **** statists.

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    Re: Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medica

    Oh people didn't see this one coming with the nationwide implementation of EMR's?

    Or did they just believe the BS that it wasn't gonna get done?

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    Re: Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medica

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im not going to reserve judgement-I dont want ANY of this info in govt hands. Enough with big brother, Im sick of feeling like I live in an Orwell novel. **** statists.
    One of the biggest misconceptions by people who haven't really read George Orwell's book is that the phrase "Big Brother is Watching" refers to working class people like yourself. In the book itself, the proles (working class) are basically allowed to roam freely while entertained with the simple pleasures of life.

    Actually, the people being watched over by big brother are mostly members of the ruling inner party and some members of the outer party. In other words, the most likely way for you to be.... watched by big brother... is if you are a member of government. Are you a member of the government? If not, have no fear and be joyful to be a member of the prole class, my conservative friend.

    Sarcasm aside, have you actually read the book and understood it beyond what is stated in CliffNotes? Because if you had, you would have realized that even in the book, it is clearly shown that Big Brother is mostly based on propaganda and not an actual system of surveillance. People are kept in line by slogans, not surveillance programs which can be repealed with the next government that comes in.
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    Re: Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medica

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    One of the biggest misconceptions by people who haven't really read George Orwell's book is that the phrase "Big Brother is Watching" refers to working class people like yourself. In the book itself, the proles (working class) are basically allowed to roam freely while entertained with the simple pleasures of life.

    Actually, the people being watched over by big brother are mostly members of the ruling inner party and some members of the outer party. In other words, the most likely way for you to be.... watched by big brother... is if you are a member of government. Are you a member of the government? If not, have no fear and be joyful to be a member of the prole class, my conservative friend.

    Sarcasm aside, have you actually read the book and understood it beyond what is stated in CliffNotes? Because if you had, you would have realized that even in the book, it is clearly shown that Big Brother is mostly based on propaganda and not an actual system of surveillance. People are kept in line by slogans, not surveillance programs which can be repealed with the next government that comes in.
    What I find really ironic is that one could argue that Orwell was right in a way... But was wrong about the way it would occur, in many ways the government didn't have to do anything at all to get our information, we handed it over willingly and openly.

    In two ways.

    1. Facebook - we publically say where we live, where we go, who we associate with, what we believe, what we do and what we like

    2. Virtually every cellphone in use today has a camera, a good case study is the Vancouver riots, CCTV barely came into the picture, all they had to do was scour through videos uploaded by the crowd to see who was doing what.

    If you have a bad day and yell at a McDonald's employee your face will be known to the world from a cellphone in 30 seconds, convenient that McDonald's has wifi.

    Orwell never anticipated the people themselves as a collective willingly becoming big brother.
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    Re: Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medica

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    One of the biggest misconceptions by people who haven't really read George Orwell's book is that the phrase "Big Brother is Watching" refers to working class people like yourself. In the book itself, the proles (working class) are basically allowed to roam freely while entertained with the simple pleasures of life.

    Actually, the people being watched over by big brother are mostly members of the ruling inner party and some members of the outer party. In other words, the most likely way for you to be.... watched by big brother... is if you are a member of government. Are you a member of the government? If not, have no fear and be joyful to be a member of the prole class, my conservative friend.

    Sarcasm aside, have you actually read the book and understood it beyond what is stated in CliffNotes? Because if you had, you would have realized that even in the book, it is clearly shown that Big Brother is mostly based on propaganda and not an actual system of surveillance. People are kept in line by slogans, not surveillance programs which can be repealed with the next government that comes in.
    Which book? Ive read 4 by Orwell. Yes, I read them. If you are referring to 84, it was a constant phrase to every citizen. To me, as an American (not a brit cop who worked india) it pertains to ME. As in the authoritarian statist douches are watching mofoking ME. Needless to say I dont like this in the least bit. I was 4 in 84.

    edit-this was the movie I watched, circa 93, I twas an eagle scout not 4 years after-Clinton wouldnt come, but Mary Bono did. Years later, I met Gerald Ford, I thanked him for his kind words about me, said upon reaching eagle. These experiences have been formative.

    1963..,Kennedy was president. Some of my favorite vintage speakers and tubes are of the era. The M14 was king. American's werent apologetic. Krushev was a douche, but a candycane compared to Stalin. Beautiful women. Men were men. Liberals were a novelty, but most American kids were young chumps, waiting to be plucked.

    Last edited by US Conservative; 05-21-14 at 06:01 AM.

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    Re: Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medica

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Well, seeing that you don't trust the government with your information, I do not trust CCHF. Sounds like a right wing disinformation group.

    Our Goals


    • Individual patient and practitioner freedom in health care decision-making
    • Protection of patient autonomy and dignity through medical record privacy and strong patient consent provisions
    • Reduced dependency on government health care programs
    • Free and open health care market, including Medical Savings Accounts, and non-managed care health insurance options.
    • Market competition at the patient and consumer level.
    • Equal tax treatment for purchase of health care insurance
    • Privately-owned insurance independent from employment
    • Life-long insurance policies.
    • A charitable safety net strengthened through tax incentives
    • Elimination of taxes on health care services.



    Yet you trust Obama and HHS, who have demonstrably and repeatedly lied to the entire nation?

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    Re: Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medica

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yet you trust Obama and HHS, who have demonstrably and repeatedly lied to the entire nation?
    Those aren't lies, that's just right wing spin.
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    Re: Federal ‘Biosurveillance’ Plan Seeking Direct Access to Americans’ Private Medica

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Those aren't lies, that's just right wing spin.
    Haters gonna hate, ya know. Just trying to throw another log on the phony scandal fire.

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