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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    "At the VA, they've had a culture of saying the right things at the top and then not enforcing change down through the organization,'' he said Monday....."

    Former SSA Commissioner Astrue: VA Problems a 'Pentagon Management' Issue


    That was the culture at the VA when Bush was president. Apparently, it hasn't changed much.


    Why don't they just let the Vets go on Medicaid?


    As a side, the VA was a blessing for my dad.

    Heya Moot. It appears to have kept getting worse under BO?


    Veteran Affairs Dept Budget

    2014: $154B
    2006: $73B

    Wait Time in Days for Care

    2014: 360
    2012: 255
    2010: 115
    2008: 110

    US VA Affairs data.....snip~


    Now.....it has been shown that from 2007. That BO knew some of it back then. But it still doesn't explain why things kept getting worse every year Obama has been in Office. That's just on the wait times alone.

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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    Adding an ad hominem attack on top of your hypocritical whining about drive by attacks as you do just and only that will, or at least should, get you some attention. But not from me.
    Yes, you do indeed continue to avoid talking about the article. I'd think eventually you'd learn, but that might not be possible. So tell us, is there a history of the current president (or his people) saying the first time they heard of xxxxxxx was in the media, or has that never happened?
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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Again, the White House claims the president learned of the VA scandal through news reports... Is this president an out-of-touch idiot, or a calculated habitual liar?


    JIM ACOSTA, CNN: When was the president first made aware of these problems? Of these fraudulent lists that were being kept to hide the wait times, when was he first made aware of those problems? And when did other White House officials, top White House officials, become aware of these problems?

    JAY CARNEY: When you say these problems, the fact that there have been bureaucracies --

    ACOSTA: The delays have been known for some time.

    CARNEY: You mean the specific allegations that I think were reported first by your news network out of Phoenix, I believe. We learned about them through the reports. I will double check if that is not the case.


    You can see the exchange here:

    Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports | Video | RealClearPolitics

    Both! Look he is the most incompetent president ever! hell he makes jimmy carter look like a good president.

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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Yes, you do indeed continue to avoid talking about the article. I'd think eventually you'd learn, but that might not be possible. So tell us, is there a history of the current president (or his people) saying the first time they heard of xxxxxxx was in the media, or has that never happened?
    So tell me, what is your take on the article? So far all you have done is level ad homs at me. Do you even have an opinion about Carney's excuse making for the POTUS? Any "original ideas" of your own about this frequent excuse from both Carney, Obama and the administration? That they did not know about most breaking scandals until they read about them or heard about them on TV? I mean even Jon Stewart has made great comedy of the constant excuse. You don't even know if there has been a "history" of it? Come now, let your hands off the steering wheel, slow down and instead of just spewing, spew something intelligent and about the topic for the first time in the thread.



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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Moot. It appears to have kept getting worse under BO?


    Veteran Affairs Dept Budget

    2014: $154B
    2006: $73B

    Wait Time in Days for Care

    2014: 360
    2012: 255
    2010: 115
    2008: 110

    US VA Affairs data.....snip~


    Now.....it has been shown that from 2007. That BO knew some of it back then. But it still doesn't explain why things kept getting worse every year Obama has been in Office. That's just on the wait times alone.
    Lets not forget that the Dems cited the VA as evidence that govt controlled medical care was a good thing.
    An effing year for an appointment? Its insane, and Ive read that the average cost per veteran per year is 38K.
    All on Obama's watch.

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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    So tell me, what is your take on the article? So far all you have done is level ad homs at me. Do you even have an opinion about Carney's excuse making for the POTUS? Any "original ideas" of your own about this frequent excuse from both Carney, Obama and the administration? That they did not know about most breaking scandals until they read about them or heard about them on TV? I mean even Jon Stewart has made great comedy of the constant excuse. You don't even know if there has been a "history" of it? Come now, let your hands off the steering wheel, slow down and instead of just spewing, spew something intelligent and about the topic for the first time in the thread.

    Obama Again Claims He 'Just Learned' about a Scandal from TV
    Carney is the new baghdad bob.

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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Lets not forget that the Dems cited the VA as evidence that govt controlled medical care was a good thing.
    An effing year for an appointment? Its insane, and Ive read that the average cost per veteran per year is 38K.
    All on Obama's watch.
    The VA health care system is a single payer system and evidence has now surfaced that it also has a "Death Panel."

    Every week something surfaces showing that Sarah Palin had the talk and the walk.

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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Lets not forget that the Dems cited the VA as evidence that govt controlled medical care was a good thing.
    An effing year for an appointment? Its insane, and Ive read that the average cost per veteran per year is 38K.
    All on Obama's watch.

    Heya USC. Yeah.....I have had to go thru other means and use BCBS to deal with some issues. As I couldn't wait around. Although.....here in Chicago, they tried to downplay this list with Heinz Hospital.

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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Moot. It appears to have kept getting worse under BO?


    Veteran Affairs Dept Budget

    2014: $154B
    2006: $73B

    Wait Time in Days for Care

    2014: 360
    2012: 255
    2010: 115
    2008: 110

    US VA Affairs data.....snip~


    Now.....it has been shown that from 2007. That BO knew some of it back then. But it still doesn't explain why things kept getting worse every year Obama has been in Office. That's just on the wait times alone.

    I will go out on a limb here and guess that aging boomer (Vietnam?) veterans coupled with those from the never ending war on terror are significant factors. What seems to be happening is that veterans care facility capability is not growing as fast as number of eligible veterans seeking care is. The lying about VA care delays is likely tied to "performance bonus" money given to those facilities that look best on paper or to make it appear that more money in the VA budget translates to better care.
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    re: Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    So tell me,
    I have already told you what you did when you came into the thread. We need not repeat it. And answering a question with a question is just diversion on your part. Have a nice day, I see there is no point recognizing you exist.
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