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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Why aliens gotta be evil?
    HG Wells explained it best:

    No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older worlds of space as sources of human danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of life upon them as impossible or improbable. It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days. At most terrestrial men fancied there might be other men upon Mars, perhaps inferior to themselves and ready to welcome a missionary enterprise. Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twentieth century came the great disillusionment.

    Also, to put it in perspective: The power necessary to produce a signal that would be detectable in another galaxy is immense and would be created by an intelligence much more advanced than our own, and they would have had to accomplish the task at least 2.5 million years ago for us to be receiving the signal today.
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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And by what basis do you go by with this belief? Humanity? We are the only ones on this planet and in our entire experiance as such we are the only species to base such a belief on. To narrow this scope down a bit...would you base a belief that all of humanity are peaceful beings based on a single pacifist?

    In otherwords the only "developmental evidence" that we have is one single species. No scientist worth their salt would make such an assumption based on ONE example.

    I base it on the only example of ethical progress we have, ours. Given what we have managed in a mere 100 years, one cannot expect space being to be drooling hillfolk.

    Do you have anything else to base it on? If not, then why are you complaining?

    Please, tell us of your vast knowledge of aliens.

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Given the distance we've come in the past 100 years, there is no reason to believe those capable of interstellar travel will be barbarians. Such a presumption is counter to all developmental evidence.
    When man exterminates pests like mice or cockroaches is barbarian a word to describe what man did? When man uses mice for experiments is barbarian a word used to describe what man did?

    Alternatively, you're placing human qualities in extraterrestrials (Anthropomorphism).

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    When man exterminates pests like mice or cockroaches is barbarian a word to describe what man did? When man uses mice for experiments is barbarian a word used to describe what man did?
    So now we're cockroaches. Another stupid presumption on your part.

    Alternatively, you're placing human qualities in extraterrestrials (Anthropomorphism).
    And what would you base alien behavior on? Gee, there's nothing else, is there? Duh.

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    The point is without contacting and evaluating them first there is no point to create these horror movie driven prejudices about the alien's intent on earth. My position is that, just like God, we do not know of aliens neither for they have not showed up yet.
    No point? Fear of the Unknown says

    Prognosticating & hypothesising has lead to a great many things.

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    No point? Fear of the Unknown says

    Prognosticating & hypothesising has lead to a great many things.
    Great many things can only come after the hypothesis are tested. There is nothing of practical use for them to remain as opinions, words, on the air in their hypothetical state alone.
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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So now we're cockroaches. Another stupid presumption on your part.



    And what would you base alien behavior on? Gee, there's nothing else, is there? Duh.
    Man… you turn into quite the ass when people don't lockstep with your every thought. You shouldn't be that way.

    Besides, you're presuming that extraterrestrials wouldn't look upon us as inferior and therefore expendable. You're all about the institution of racism and what it means and entails so I don't need to remind you of what white people did to other human beings when they were looked upon as inferior.

    So you jump down my throat for presuming things yet turn right around and go off presuming things of your own. Hypocrisy says

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Man… you turn into quite the ass when people don't lockstep with your every thought. You shouldn't be that way.
    That's not true. It annoys me when someone is all "but you're using people's behavior to describe aliens "(anthropomorphism)", as if I've never heard the word, genius. While you're doing the SAME THING.

    Your narrative is based on humans being cockroaches and aliens being less evolved than a decent person. It's all stupid. It's like a manic depressive evaluating the future, and we're supposed to give a **** that you see the world and the future as a pile of ****. Spare us.

    Lastly, you ain't got with it takes to evaluate me, so you know what you can do with your opinion on that as well. Don't cry too much.
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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Given the distance we've come in the past 100 years, there is no reason to believe those capable of interstellar travel will be barbarians. Such a presumption is counter to all developmental evidence.
    Or maybe they haven't evolved and they're still giant dickheads. The point is not how far (as yet some of us) have come, but that we know full well what we're capable of, and that alone should stand as all the reason for exercising caution when exploring space for intelligent life, as opposed to screaming on every broadband frequency, "HEEERE WE ARE! DUR DEE DURR!" Or, for that matter, sending out a probe with a dvd on it announcing that we're peaceful, pink and fleshy, and delicious.
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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Do you know their intentions for sure that you can conclude that as certainly?
    Yeah, totally. They're talking to me, man.


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