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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    They don't have to be evil, but they likely would be considering they'd dwarf us intellectually and technologically. The way humans view mice/ants/fleas is the way they'd likely view us. There are human-on-human examples of this: Columbus & Cortés with the Arawak/Taino/Lucayan & Aztecs.
    We've learned from our mistakes, presumably they have as well.

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    I read the article, as soon as I saw that these frequencies were being broadcast on the GHz band and all of my radios are only capable of receiving Mhz and KHz bands I ran out to Radio Shack to purchase a radio that was capable of receiving GHz band frequencies.

    Radio Shack no longer sells radios !!!

    Cold War story.

    U.S. intelligence were confused with the messages that were being transmitted by the Soviets. They were just a radio burst of a fraction of a second. Eventually someone decided to slow down the recordings big time. The Soviets were taking minute long transmissions and speeding them up to be transmitted at a burst of less than one second.

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

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    We've learned from our mistakes, presumably they have as well.
    "There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy."

    Point being, although developing trends support your statement, I don't think we're so far along that it would take terribly much to revert. And let's be fair, people in third world countries aren't treated so hot.

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

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    Are these mystery radio bursts messages from ALIENS? | Mail Online

    I'm guessing that it was swamp gas. No, wait. It was a weather balloon. That's it, I'm sure of it.
    Gotta love the ineptitude of the author of the article. He shows one instance of someone discovering this radio signal from outside the solar system, the rest doesn't say where the signals came from and the author automatically says "from outside the milky way". While these radio bursts could be coming from outside the milky way that doesn't mean that they ARE coming from outside the milky way. The author shows his ignorance of astronomy by proclaiming that its coming from outside the milky way because one astronomer found it coming from outside the solar system. This is actually a common mistake from those that are ignorant on astronomy. Many seem to think that our solar system IS the milky way. It's not. The milky way is our entire galaxy. A MUCH larger expanse of space than our tiny solar system. Our system would be called the Sol System. Based off of the name of our star.
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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We've learned from our mistakes, presumably they have as well.
    Perhaps civilized society has, but when an examination of "uncivilized" societies is conducted, wholesale slaughter, slavery, rape & other ugly things exist in abundance.

    When it comes to extraterrestrials: the way we interact with each other is dependent on what their goals are. They could be humanity's greatest ally or something akin to extraterrestrial North Koreans. If they're the former, great, our worldly problems would be likely solved. But if they're the latter, we're ****ed because there is a wide-spectrum of horrible things we could experience.

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    "There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy."

    Point being, although developing trends support your statement, I don't think we're so far along that it would take terribly much to revert. And let's be fair, people in third world countries aren't treated so hot.
    We're not beyond societal collapse. That can take many forms. EMP/solar flare, a catastrophic natural disaster, a pandemic with an absurdly high casualty rate, worldwide economic calamity, scarcity of life sustaining necessities like water & food, thermonuclear exchanges, etc.

    When the proverbial **** hits the fan law & order will quickly break down. And once governments have started their continuity operations and locked themselves away from the outside world, the rest of us get to live in a state of nature.

    The awful thing once realization is gained is that we could wake up tomorrow with the ball already in motion for societal collapse which inevitability leads to our demise.

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    "There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy."

    Point being, although developing trends support your statement, I don't think we're so far along that it would take terribly much to revert. And let's be fair, people in third world countries aren't treated so hot.
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    Perhaps civilized society has, but when an examination of "uncivilized" societies is conducted, wholesale slaughter, slavery, rape & other ugly things exist in abundance.

    When it comes to extraterrestrials: the way we interact with each other is dependent on what their goals are. They could be humanity's greatest ally or something akin to extraterrestrial North Koreans. If they're the former, great, our worldly problems would be likely solved. But if they're the latter, we're ****ed because there is a wide-spectrum of horrible things we could experience.
    Given the distance we've come in the past 100 years, there is no reason to believe those capable of interstellar travel will be barbarians. Such a presumption is counter to all developmental evidence.

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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

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    If we meet aliens it's going to end poorly for us.
    Do you know their intentions for sure that you can conclude that as certainly?
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    When it comes to extraterrestrials: the way we interact with each other is dependent on what their goals are. They could be humanity's greatest ally or something akin to extraterrestrial North Koreans. If they're the former, great, our worldly problems would be likely solved. But if they're the latter, we're ****ed because there is a wide-spectrum of horrible things we could experience.
    The point is without contacting and evaluating them first there is no point to create these horror movie driven prejudices about the alien's intent on earth. My position is that, just like God, we do not know of aliens neither for they have not showed up yet.
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    Re: Frequency from outside the Milky Way baffles astronomers

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Given the distance we've come in the past 100 years, there is no reason to believe those capable of interstellar travel will be barbarians. Such a presumption is counter to all developmental evidence.
    And by what basis do you go by with this belief? Humanity? We are the only ones on this planet and in our entire experiance as such we are the only species to base such a belief on. To narrow this scope down a bit...would you base a belief that all of humanity are peaceful beings based on a single pacifist?

    In otherwords the only "developmental evidence" that we have is one single species. No scientist worth their salt would make such an assumption based on ONE example.
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