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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I believe anyone who feels the death penalty is cruel how would they feel if someone in their family was raped or murdered would be singing a different tune.
    Too much sympathy is given to those who murder, rape and pillage, none it seems is give to the victims. It is like the victims do not count. Shame on them for being there in the first place for someone to murder and rape them.
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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

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    Why not just bring back guillotines instead? Guaranteed death.
    Sick thing is that there would be nut jobs who would enjoy that.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I believe anyone who feels the death penalty is cruel how would they feel if someone in their family was raped or murdered would be singing a different tune.
    If anyone is interested, there are countless people who have lost loved ones in horrific circumstances and they still oppose the death penalty.

    These a real people, real stories, absolutely heartbreaking. Some of them have witnessed the death penalty being carried out and they say that it gives them absolutely no peace at all, in fact it just creates more victims.

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    To answer your question Navy, the life of the person that killed someone I love is not considered an equal trade for my loved one, nor will it ever be. Some total stranger may assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up but it's not and it never will be. It won't bring closure, that has to come from within.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

    I would prefer firing squad, it's cheap fast and if for some reason it doesn't work you can shoot again until the person is dead. I support using the death penalty in severe cases, but execution by firing squad is fine with me, maybe even preferable.
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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    If anyone is interested, there are countless people who have lost loved ones in horrific circumstances and they still oppose the death penalty.

    These a real people, real stories, absolutely heartbreaking. Some of them have witnessed the death penalty being carried out and they say that it gives them absolutely no peace at all, in fact it just creates more victims.

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    To answer your question Navy, the life of the person that killed someone I love is not considered an equal trade for my loved one, nor will it ever be. Some total stranger may assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up but it's not and it never will be. It won't bring closure, that has to come from within.

    I went though this with my best friend who was murdered at his place of business. His killers were sentenced to death... took 10 yrs in one case and 14 yrs with the other.

    While I was definitely pro-DP I must say I went through quite a range of emotions during the trials, appeals, and the lead up to the executions. When all was said and done, I tried to forgive my friend's killers and prayed for their souls... but I still felt that the death penalty was the correct punishment in this case (involving two senseless, needless, pointless murders of fine young persons aged 23 and 19) and that when it was done a feeling of relief that justice had been served.

    Yes, closure is primarily internal... but seeing justice done certainly helps.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    If anyone is interested, there are countless people who have lost loved ones in horrific circumstances and they still oppose the death penalty.

    These a real people, real stories, absolutely heartbreaking. Some of them have witnessed the death penalty being carried out and they say that it gives them absolutely no peace at all, in fact it just creates more victims.

    Victims' Stories | Murder Victims

    To answer your question Navy, the life of the person that killed someone I love is not considered an equal trade for my loved one, nor will it ever be. Some total stranger may assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up but it's not and it never will be. It won't bring closure, that has to come from within.
    I am perfectly fine with giving a victim's family the final word on whether or not death should be pursued. That said, I have no sympathy for someone obviously guilty of a heinous crime getting the death penalty.
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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Or we can avoid the whole mess and just not have a death penalty.
    I'm for that. Serious offenders doing laborious tasks, no cell phones in prison, no weight-workout rooms, no special privileges e.g TV, radio, cd players etc. in their cells. Passing though Alabama I'd noticed chain gangs working in the hot sun, without the chains alongside of highways, whacking weeds, picking up trash, that's a pretty good use of prison inmates, and the state doesn't have to pay people to do it.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Who cares if its cruel. When these scumbags murder and rape people that is pretty cruel to don't you think?
    Yes, the only reservation I would have is in knowing the person actually committed the crime. Many people were sent to prisons in the past who with the help of attorneys and new DNA evidence found the prisoners were actually innocent.

    If they going to pass death sentences upon people, they better be darned sure the person committed the act, real sure.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker: Bring back firing squad executions

    I don't support the death penalty. Too many innocent people
    being released years and years later now.

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