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    Re: Harry Reid backs campaign spending amendment

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    And to think that suggesting Hillary Clinton may have residual effects of head injuries sustained in 2012 is political grandstanding!
    Yeah! Must have been kind of embarrassing, though, when her husband agrees publically that it is true.

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    Re: Harry Reid backs campaign spending amendment

    Interesting how he suddenly backs it after winning what will probably be his last term in office. Where was he before those elections that got him this far? Oh, yeah, he was spending large amounts of money from special interest groups to finance his campaigns.
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    Re: Harry Reid backs campaign spending amendment

    Won't go anywhere. But I don't think SuperPACs is what our founders had in mind.

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    Why would you want to give the government the right to "regulate groups" involved in political campaigns - campaigns are a form of speech. Does the left really think their brand of government will sit well with the masses they can dictate them like Iran does to its people?

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    In my opinion one of the most important bills to reach the Senate floor. Its clear that we are becoming more and more an oligarchy (if we arent already there) and that money is buying our elections and our representatives. Unfortunately this is not likely to pass [/FONT][/COLOR]

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    Re: Harry Reid backs campaign spending amendment

    Oh, God. This is laughable. This guy rakes in tons of this cash, now he is acting like it's someone else, as if he doesn't do it. When you think of Washington politics, of corrupt elected officials, those that make decisions based on what's good for them and don't give a crap about the American people, Hary Ried is right at the top of that list.
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    Re: Harry Reid backs campaign spending amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Why would you want to give the government the right to "regulate groups" involved in political campaigns - campaigns are a form of speech. Does the left really think their brand of government will sit well with the masses they can dictate them like Iran does to its people?
    Spending money is a form of speech? So the rich have more "free speech" than the rest of us?


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    Re: Harry Reid backs campaign spending amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Spending money is a form of speech? So the rich have more "free speech" than the rest of us?
    Pretty much the way I see it as well. Personally I would like to see a general fund that all contributions go into and is then divided equally among all candidates of the same office. That would remove the financial edge which we have to admit can be a pretty big determining factor when campaigning. It would probably also help a little to keep politicians out of the pockets of the special interest groups that throw money at their campaigns. In my view it has come down to you either sell out or you have zero chance at rasing enough money to compete. Alas so many see $ in the same category as free speech and pools will never happen.

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    Free speech is just that, free, and if you want to make sure its heard you have a right to make it so. If it is not heard due to government restriction then how is it free. I can't imagine any more right sacred in a free nation then being allowed to propel our message to as many as we want over politics.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Spending money is a form of speech? So the rich have more "free speech" than the rest of us?

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    Re: Harry Reid backs campaign spending amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more: Harry Reid backs campaign spending amendment - Burgess Everett - POLITICO.com

    In my opinion one of the most important bills to reach the Senate floor. Its clear that we are becoming more and more an oligarchy (if we arent already there) and that money is buying our elections and our representatives. Unfortunately this is not likely to pass [/FONT][/COLOR]
    What Harry Reid wants is the perception from the voters that the Democrats are on the side of ordinary people. Remember back in 2012 both Obama and Romney spent raised and spent a billion dollars apiece. Then in 2008 Obama raised and spent 750 million without federal matching funds vs McCain who raised and spent 368 million which included federal matching funds. If one is honest about this whole thing, both parties owe their heart and soul to big money donors, special interests, corporations, Wall Street, lobbyist, pacs and super pacs, probably hundreds of outside organizations, all with enough money to raise and spend billions. There is no high moral ground here for the Democrats.

    Now having said all of the above, I wish Reid luck although I know it is just an election ploy. But what else is new in the world of politics? Elections are won and lost on perceptions, what the voter perceives to be true, not on the reality of truth. Nonetheless, Senator Reid has my backing on this. You do not know how much I wish he was sincere about it instead of an election gimmick.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Harry Reid backs campaign spending amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    What Harry Reid wants is the perception from the voters that the Democrats are on the side of ordinary people. Remember back in 2012 both Obama and Romney spent raised and spent a billion dollars apiece. Then in 2008 Obama raised and spent 750 million without federal matching funds vs McCain who raised and spent 368 million which included federal matching funds. If one is honest about this whole thing, both parties owe their heart and soul to big money donors, special interests, corporations, Wall Street, lobbyist, pacs and super pacs, probably hundreds of outside organizations, all with enough money to raise and spend billions. There is no high moral ground here for the Democrats.

    Now having said all of the above, I wish Reid luck although I know it is just an election ploy. But what else is new in the world of politics? Elections are won and lost on perceptions, what the voter perceives to be true, not on the reality of truth. Nonetheless, Senator Reid has my backing on this. You do not know how much I wish he was sincere about it instead of an election gimmick.
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