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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Calling a raise for the minimum wage is "radical"? Isnt that working within the capitalist system?
    I don't know about radical, but I don't see how an economic system addresses a political issue. In the capitalist system, an employee would ask for a raise for themselve and if they didn't get it, that could either accept that or seek employment elsewhere for a value they see as fair.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I don't know about radical, but I don't see how an economic system addresses a political issue. In the capitalist system, an employee would ask for a raise for themselve and if they didn't get it, that could either accept that or seek employment elsewhere for a value they see as fair.
    You see but we have a regulation called the minimum wage tho...


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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Calling for a minimum wage increase in a shrinking economy is definitely radical.
    Just now it shrunk for the first time in years, "The U.S. economy contracted for the first time in three years in the first quarter as it buckled under a severe winter, but there are signs it has rebounded and economists say it could grow as much as 4 percent in the current quarter.

    The Commerce Department on Thursday slashed its estimate of gross domestic product to show the economy shrank at a 1.0 percent annual rate." http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-us-economy-shrinks-in-first-quarter-amid-severe-weather-20140529,0,1828180.story
    Not only that but its supposed to rebound.
    And working within they system to call for a raise is not radical at all. I dont see how it is radical.


    A.d destructive and counter productive.
    Nope. Not is not
    Nearly 3 years, and counting: Minimum wage increase helps working families and the economy | Economic Policy Institute
    Economists agree: Raising the minimum wage reduces poverty
    How raising the federal minimum wage would help working families and give the economy a boost | Economic Policy Institute
    6 Ways A $12 Minimum Wage Would Help The Economy
    Reduces poverty, gives the economy a boost, increases purchasing power, raises the GDP,


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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by JRSaindo View Post
    Since when did so many abandon the free market? Flipping burgers is now a profession? When did this happen? Is the economy in every nation that bad that this is now a career path? When I was growing up it was kids and "special" people working at fast food joints. Learning responsibility, saving money, etc. Sorry, a career in flipping burgers and fries is not worth $15 an hour. What skills do you need for that job? They can't even spread the pickles out properly, they just pile everything in the middle.

    $15 an hour is for associate degree skill level, not high school dropout skill level. So are all these socialists calling for raises for every other profession also? Is it fair to the people who spent the money and time to get an associates degree to have the same pay as a burger flipper? So lets raise everyone's wages in every profession by over 100%. That ought to be fair right? Ridiculous, the whole damn "civilized" world is ridiculous. No long term thinking applies anymore. Selfish attitudes of instant gratification took over at the expense of the future. We should be ashamed. Everything is NOT equal in the real world, or have we forgotten that there are always winners and losers? Not everyone is a winner.

    On the bright side, now maybe fast food chains will start dying out when the price of products goes up. I say products because it is barely food. Employers NEVER eat the cost. Their margins MUST go up. So you know who the costs will be passed to if this happens. So should we also freeze price increases? The free market is pretty much dead. The joys of short-sighted thinkers and unintended consequences.
    For those that don't have faith in people to be their best, they think burger flippin is a career. It's also cheap vote buying...
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Just now it shrunk for the first time in years, "The U.S. economy contracted for the first time in three years in the first quarter as it buckled under a severe winter, but there are signs it has rebounded and economists say it could grow as much as 4 percent in the current quarter.

    The Commerce Department on Thursday slashed its estimate of gross domestic product to show the economy shrank at a 1.0 percent annual rate." http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-us-economy-shrinks-in-first-quarter-amid-severe-weather-20140529,0,1828180.story
    Not only that but its supposed to rebound.
    And working within they system to call for a raise is not radical at all. I dont see how it is radical.



    Nope. Not is not
    Nearly 3 years, and counting: Minimum wage increase helps working families and the economy | Economic Policy Institute
    Economists agree: Raising the minimum wage reduces poverty
    How raising the federal minimum wage would help working families and give the economy a boost | Economic Policy Institute
    6 Ways A $12 Minimum Wage Would Help The Economy
    Reduces poverty, gives the economy a boost, increases purchasing power, raises the GDP,

    Why stop at $15 an hour?

    Government provided cars for every high school grad!

    Government provided "Food ration cards" good for say $150 a person per household!

    Government provided housing!
    It would be green, compact so that urban sprawl stops, and keep people "safe in the village". In fact if we reach that point we can do away with cars! Planned cities!


    I don't see why we keep randomly blundering along, a planned country could erase crime, poverty, hunger! No more income inequality!


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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Why stop at $15 an hour?

    Government provided cars for every high school grad!

    Government provided "Food ration cards" good for say $150 a person per household!

    Government provided housing!
    It would be green, compact so that urban sprawl stops, and keep people "safe in the village". In fact if we reach that point we can do away with cars! Planned cities!


    I don't see why we keep randomly blundering along, a planned country could erase crime, poverty, hunger! No more income inequality!


    (I think I just made TDS orgasm with that... I feel dirty)


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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    It's entry level low skilled work. Frankly, such labor doesn't deserve a $15 wage and just because someone is alive doesn't entitle them to some kind of "living" wage. If something like this does happen then public assistance and welfare also needs to decrease with the standards to getting it being more strict.
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You see but we have a regulation called the minimum wage tho...
    And by the US being generally a capitalist system is your proof that minimum wage is a capitalistic concept. That's as nutty as saying that because there is theft in the US is proof that we are in a socialist system.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    And by the US being generally a capitalist system is your proof that minimum wage is a capitalistic concept. That's as nutty as saying that because there is theft in the US is proof that we are in a socialist system.
    No. Im saying we are mainly a capitalist system but not a completely laissez-faire capitalist system. We are a regulated capitalist system with some mixed markets.


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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Why stop at $15 an hour?

    Government provided cars for every high school grad!

    Government provided "Food ration cards" good for say $150 a person per household!

    Government provided housing!
    It would be green, compact so that urban sprawl stops, and keep people "safe in the village". In fact if we reach that point we can do away with cars! Planned cities!


    I don't see why we keep randomly blundering along, a planned country could erase crime, poverty, hunger! No more income inequality!


    (I think I just made TDS orgasm with that... I feel dirty)
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