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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Only as low as costs will bear. Labor is a cost.
    So is executive compensation.

    Personally, 15 an hour is not realistic. But neither is 5,000 an hour.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    So is executive compensation.

    Personally, 15 an hour is not realistic. But neither is 5,000 an hour.
    Well, you give it a shot, right? If someone will give you $5k and hour to run a company, great. If you can get someone to give you $15p/hr to mop the floor, also great. Just doesn't always work out.
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    No!
    This is what you have been saying.That is a blanket statement that is wrong.
    As you can do legal things which can prevent a Union from forming. As stated.
    No its not. Youre talking about govt sponsored labor unions, whereas Im talking about the simply idea of people grouping together. You cant ban people from forming a group and making demand of an employer.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    So is executive compensation.

    Personally, 15 an hour is not realistic. But neither is 5,000 an hour.
    Either way that determination should be made between the employer/employee. Not govt.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No its not. Youre talking about govt sponsored labor unions, whereas Im talking about the simply idea of people grouping together.
    Again you are not paying attention.
    I am not talking about any gov sponsored labor union. That is a ridiculous claim.
    I am speaking about any labor force that a union is attempting to unionize.

    You can do anything that is legal, to prevent unionization. Such as lobbying the employees not to form a union.


    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You cant ban people from forming a group and making demand of an employer.
    Why are you not following the conversation?
    Nothing I said even suggests that such activity could/should be banned.

    So again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    People have a right to assemble.
    No one said they couldn't.


    But the laws should change.
    They can assemble all they want. They can even lobby their employer.
    They just shouldn't be able to force their desires on an employer.
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action | Al Jazeera America

    One of the biggest protests globally in solidarity with eachother all revolving around raising the minimum wage. I support these protests, and believe not only should the minimum wage but one of the most profitable industires should be paying their employees much much better. Im behind the $15 demand.

    pleasee they are not talented and qualified enough to get paid the amount of money they need to meet their basic needs.they should be thankful to money monsters for being endowed with mercy by them because they still survive
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, you give it a shot, right? If someone will give you $5k and hour to run a company, great. If you can get someone to give you $15p/hr to mop the floor, also great. Just doesn't always work out.
    Exactly. And I think that's where all this push back from exec comp is coming from. It's not working out. There's too much weight at the top of the tower, and the base is slowly but surely starting to crumble. But are they going about correcting this properly? I don't think so, but then, who am I? I'm trying to be one of those overpaid execs, lol.

    I think exec comp being 400+ times higher than their hourly employees is merely a symptom of a larger problem. A government by the rich, for the rich. And that accusation applies to both Ds and Rs.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Either way that determination should be made between the employer/employee. Not govt.
    It's government that's caused this to happen. How do you propose employees combat the might of the government?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Exactly. And I think that's where all this push back from exec comp is coming from. It's not working out. There's too much weight at the top of the tower, and the base is slowly but surely starting to crumble. But are they going about correcting this properly? I don't think so, but then, who am I? I'm trying to be one of those overpaid execs, lol.

    I think exec comp being 400+ times higher than their hourly employees is merely a symptom of a larger problem. A government by the rich, for the rich. And that accusation applies to both Ds and Rs.
    I really don't care what the CEO's make, that's between them and the company. Same with the burger flipper. The government certainly has no business in there either. But I do care about government blowing our tax dollars on high pay and crazy benefits for government employees. That's our money, and they spend it like it's unlimited.
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Exactly. And I think that's where all this push back from exec comp is coming from. It's not working out. There's too much weight at the top of the tower, and the base is slowly but surely starting to crumble. But are they going about correcting this properly? I don't think so, but then, who am I? I'm trying to be one of those overpaid execs, lol.

    I think exec comp being 400+ times higher than their hourly employees is merely a symptom of a larger problem. A government by the rich, for the rich. And that accusation applies to both Ds and Rs.
    400 slack-jawed yokels combined couldn't do the job of a Paul Allen or a Jack Welch or a Steve Jobs. Seems appropriate.

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