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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Thankfully there are states that have right to work laws to prevent unionization.
    You cant prevent unionization, and shouldnt. At least in terms of govt backed unions. People have a right to assemble, to form groups, to make demands of their employers. BUT, we also shouldnt be forcing people into unions, or forcing employers to deal with them.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Never seen one here. And I believe it was company policy when i worked there like 6-7 years ago. But hey maybe policy changed.
    But speaking of Subway, the CEO of Subway is in favor of minimum wage hike.
    So why hasn't he done it?

    Anybody can say they are in favor of anything.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You cant prevent unionization, and shouldnt. At least in terms of govt backed unions. People have a right to assemble, to form groups, to make demands of their employers. BUT, we also shouldnt be forcing people into unions, or forcing employers to deal with them.
    No, we should ban unions especially government employee unions. What a bad, bad mess that was. Thanks JFK....
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    More fast food workers need to grow a pair and unionize, otherwise they will never have enough leverage to negotiate a decent wage. Like Walmart workers, until they do that, it is difficult for me to have any sympathy for them.
    How do you think they are going to pay the unión fees, or are the unións going to do all the work for free because they are mínimum wage earners?

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    I worked in fast food as a teenager. Its not a pleasant job, but its also not a job that is difficult to do. Even someone with below average intelligence and physical abilities could still adequately do the job. My point here is fast food workers are easily replaceable. Literally almost anyone can do the job. These are entry level, bottom rung positions in the workforce. Places to prove you have basic work place skills like being able to show up on time, do as your boss instructs you, work with others, ect. Its a place to build up experience and references. Its not a place to make a career. You can't expect a job that has virtually a limitless pool of workers to draw from to offer significant or even mediocre wages. You work here for a bit and move on to better things.
    It is amazing hoiw many people can't handle those three basic things.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    I worked in fast food as a teenager. Its not a pleasant job, but its also not a job that is difficult to do. Even someone with below average intelligence and physical abilities could still adequately do the job. My point here is fast food workers are easily replaceable. Literally almost anyone can do the job. These are entry level, bottom rung positions in the workforce. Places to prove you have basic work place skills like being able to show up on time, do as your boss instructs you, work with others, ect. Its a place to build up experience and references. Its not a place to make a career. You can't expect a job that has virtually a limitless pool of workers to draw from to offer significant or even mediocre wages. You work here for a bit and move on to better things.
    Believe it or not, new college grads also have to learn that you have to show up on time and every day (even if their tummy hurts or they're hung over), follow instructions, and get along with others. I've heard many engineering recruiters and managers refer to this as the "90-day window of opportunity."

    Also believe it or not, there are some fast-food workers who cannot perform even the most routine, repetitive tasks and have to be "babysat" every minute of the day. The turnover in the fast-food industry is tremendous, and the pickin's are often slim and the employment pool very shallow.

    But working in the fast-food industry isn't always a dead-end job. If you're talking about a national chain, it depends very much on the franchisee. Someone I love very much had to hit rock bottom (and continue to dig for awhile), but the cranial-anal extraction finally occurred. A fast-food joint gave this individual a chance, and seven years later, this same person is managing stores in the franchise with the opportunity in a few years to buy in.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No, we should ban unions especially government employee unions. What a bad, bad mess that was. Thanks JFK....
    You cant ban unions. That would be an infringement on basic liberties. We simply shouldnt use govt to give them special status.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    RTW just means that unions have a hell of a hard time scamming workers into forking over cash so the union big wigs can live the good life.
    Scamming workers? That's a crock. The fact of the matter is that union workers earn more than non-union workers. That's a good deal for the working class.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Unions are so great, look what they did to Detroit!
    Unions are great. I know being a union member benefitted me immensely.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Scamming workers? That's a crock. The fact of the matter is that union workers earn more than non-union workers. That's a good deal for the working class.


    Unions are great. I know being a union member benefitted me immensely.
    Unions, are why states like California are in the ****ter economically, why the big three automakers nearly went belly up.

    Unions are parasites, they kill the host. Sure, at first it's GREAT! But well when that blood runs out it's time to move on...

    I despise unions and IMHO union members are very selfish people.
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Unions, are why states like California are in the ****ter economically, why the big three automakers nearly went belly up.
    You're just scapegoating unions. California is screwed because of NAFTA, not unions.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Unions are parasites, they kill the host. Sure, at first it's GREAT! But well when that blood runs out it's time to move on...

    I despise unions and IMHO union members are very selfish people.
    If the most productive members of our society do not look after their own self-interests then nobody else will. It is immoral to not be selfish when it comes to getting compensated well for your labor. Those hours spent working are hours you can never get back. When negotiating with an employer it makes no sense to be altruistic. You must be selfish to avoid being unfairly exploited.

    It is the scabs who are parasites. They are free-riders. The scabs indirectly benefit from unions but do not pay dues.

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