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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by law View Post
    No. You have just told a person to pay a fast food worker if they want to see them earn more, that means all war-mongers would have to be suited and booted ready for deployment to Afghanistan. This is clownboy's world of "if you support a policy, shut up and do it".
    I am confused by your logic. He said help pay them more while they are struggling. YOU said "if you support a policy, shut up and do it". He never said that if you believe in raising the minimum wage, you should go start flipping burgers, which is what you said with a retarded war scenario. We also all already help pay for the wars we are in whether we are for them or not, so I really don't get your droning on.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No no no. POINT SIX NINE cents. As in, less than a cent.
    Oh ok then, that's fine. We'll just need to mint a point 69 cent coin then.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    I worked in fast food as a teenager. Its not a pleasant job, but its also not a job that is difficult to do. Even someone with below average intelligence and physical abilities could still adequately do the job. My point here is fast food workers are easily replaceable. Literally almost anyone can do the job. These are entry level, bottom rung positions in the workforce. Places to prove you have basic work place skills like being able to show up on time, do as your boss instructs you, work with others, ect. Its a place to build up experience and references. Its not a place to make a career. You can't expect a job that has virtually a limitless pool of workers to draw from to offer significant or even mediocre wages. You work here for a bit and move on to better things.
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    I worked in fast food as a teenager. Its not a pleasant job, but its also not a job that is difficult to do. Even someone with below average intelligence and physical abilities could still adequately do the job. My point here is fast food workers are easily replaceable. Literally almost anyone can do the job. These are entry level, bottom rung positions in the workforce. Places to prove you have basic work place skills like being able to show up on time, do as your boss instructs you, work with others, ect. Its a place to build up experience and references. Its not a place to make a career. You can't expect a job that has virtually a limitless pool of workers to draw from to offer significant or even mediocre wages. You work here for a bit and move on to better things.
    Perfectly put. The notion that a job such as a fast food worker should pay an average wage is retarded.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Their job is "worth" less than a minimum wage keeping up with inflation?
    Looks like that is the case.
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Looks like that is the case.
    How could you justify such a claim?


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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    A report begs to differ. And another report only says it will raise the prices of a Big Mac by .69 cents.
    A report? You'll believe anything that's put in front of you that serves you agenda.
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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    I worked in fast food as a teenager. Its not a pleasant job, but its also not a job that is difficult to do. Even someone with below average intelligence and physical abilities could still adequately do the job. My point here is fast food workers are easily replaceable. Literally almost anyone can do the job. These are entry level, bottom rung positions in the workforce. Places to prove you have basic work place skills like being able to show up on time, do as your boss instructs you, work with others, ect. Its a place to build up experience and references. Its not a place to make a career. You can't expect a job that has virtually a limitless pool of workers to draw from to offer significant or even mediocre wages. You work here for a bit and move on to better things.
    Exactly. Its not even a low-skill job, its a no-skill job. And progressives want to bankrupt businesses so that these jobs can enable people to buy houses, cars and Xboxes. Unbelievable.

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    A report begs to differ. And another report only says it will raise the prices of a Big Mac by .69 cents.
    That "study" (which I doubt is even an actual study since the communist Huffpost didnt publish the actual study, they just reported it so we dont know where the numbers come from) has been debunked.

    A Big Mac miss by The Huffington Post : Columbia Journalism Review

    The only way to get the 17 percent-of-revenue labor figure is to divide payroll and benefits at company-operated restaurants by total revenues. But here’s the thing: More than 80 percent of McDonald’s restaurants are franchises, and the company makes scads of money from them in no small part because it has no direct labor expense at those stores. The HuffPost explicitly includes executive compensation in its 17 percent figure, but executive comp and the pay of folks in Chicago who run marketing and the like are housed in “selling, general & administrative expenses,” not under payroll & employee benefits at company-operated stores.

    You have to divide company-operated payroll & employee benefits by company-operated sales to get an apples-to-apples measure. That gets you 25 percent. So a Big Mac would, in fact, have to go up by a full dollar, not 68 cents, in order to double wages at McDonald’s. And the Dollar Menu would have to become the Dollar Twenty-Five menu.

    It’s harder to get at non-restaurant (ie headquarters) wages because McDonald’s doesn’t break out labor costs in SG&A. Assuming pay is half of the total, it would put the number at 22 percent.

    And then there are the franchisees. There are 1.9 million people who work at McDonald’s restaurants, but just 440,000 of those actually work for McDonald’s Corporation. The rest work for franchisees who pay a cut of their sales to Chicago for the rights to the Golden Arches, Ronald McDonald, and standardized coronaries-on-a-plate.

    Worldwide, those franchisees took in $70 billion in revenue last year, and US stores took in $31 billion of that. McDonald’s Corporation doesn’t break out similar expense numbers for its franchisees, so the best I can do is research from Janney Capital Markets. It puts labor costs for US franchises at 24 percent of sales, which gibes with McDonald’s company-owned stores. Janney estimates franchisee operating income at just 5 percent.

    If Janney is right (and I’m a bit skeptical. Five percent margins seem awfully low), McDonald’s franchisees in the US pay out, very roughly, $7.4 billion in labor costs a year and make about $1.6 billion in operating profit. Doubling pay without dipping into profit would mean menu prices would have to rise 24 percent—and that’s assuming such price increases wouldn’t hurt sales, which they would.

    The bottom line is: This “study” and The Huffington Post are both wrong.
    - See more at: A Big Mac miss by The Huffington Post : Columbia Journalism Review

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    Re: Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Perfectly put. The notion that a job such as a fast food worker should pay an average wage is retarded.
    Tell that to person making your burger if you want some zit juice and pubic hair as condiments.

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