I think Christ's admonishment to avoid giving needless offense" regarding paying the Temple Tax may well have been illustrating that some deference to social norms and the feelings of others is needed for a stable society. Routinely giving needless offense can lead to tit for tat retaliation and thus exacerbate social divisions that exist in all societies.
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The child needs to get over herself, and the others who have tried to exploit her fantasy need to do the same. The only story is how desperate people are to pimp her self absorbed ego.
To her Wall Street owners: Hillary Clinton: “But if everybody's watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. so, you need both a public and a private position.” - Hillary Clinton: "I'm kind of far removed from the struggles of the Middle Class"
How it is written, she makes it sound as though when they got there and saw the dads on the balcony, her first that was they were only there to ogle her/other girls.To me, and again that may not be what she was meaning it to come off as, she assumed she was hot and thus guys would be checking her out. So, lets say Mrs. D does later come and tell her she needs to tone down the dancing (be it if Claire is lying about just swaying, or telling the truth), it seemed possible that Claire could take that as she is turning the guys on ("causing impure thoughts," which by the way is great wording if you are trying to get your post to get reposted, since it sounds like religious phrasing).
I'll admit I'm bias, in part because the story seems somewhat unbelievable and one-sided, in part because Claire's apparently first thoughts were "Rape culture!" "Patriarchy!", and in part because it just doesn't sound like the whole story/truth.
Some more supposed witness accounts, sadly most (I've found) are either blogs or people commenting to an article/blog so it is hard to say they are who they say they are:
A Girl Named Alexa: Victimization or Twisted Narrative?
A Girl Named Alexa: Victimization or Twisted Narrative?
Unless she was "twerking" (doubtful, given the cut of the dress) or grabbing her crotch and breasts, it doesn't seem like a big enough problem for expulsion from the prom.
Couple reasons why I don't really believe the girl
First the odds that this would happen to someone who just happens to be sisters with someone who has a blog that is titled fu$k the patriarchy seems like pretty big coincidence.
Second so the men where ogling her and talking about her. Then the men complained and asked to have her kicked out. If they were ogling her that means they were enjoying looking at her why exactly would they then have her kicked out so they can no longer look at her. It just doesn't really make sense. People generally do not want to stop doing something they are enjoying.
Another teenager who attended the prom (linked by coyotedelmar pages back), a Callie Hobbs/Hobbes, stated that it was when the first teen showed extreme disrespect to the adults that she was asked to leave. The first teen did post in her sister's blog that as she left, she flipped those adults off, so it's not difficult to believe what the second teen says about the disrespect.
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“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”
- Alexander Hamilton. Spiritual father of #NeverTrump
1) A Girl Named Alexa is a blog/journal by a young lady who gives her opinions on things. Her age is unknown as is her education level. She doesn't indicate she is especially qualified at anything other than to say; "There is one aspect of my life that so defines me that without it, I would be completely empty and broken. That is God. He is my creator, my savior, and my lord. Without Him I would be nothing, and because of that I owe Him everything." While that is not a disqualifier, it does taint her opinion.
The anonymous reply from "Jordan" appears more like a plant than an actual eyewitness account. Also, unfortunately, there still is no comment from the adults who planned this event, so it does suffer an imbalance.
The greatest problem here is that fact that this was even reported on. Gawker - Today's gossip is tomorrow's news broke the story (which was never properly vetted) and the left wing news services gleefully picked up on it, not wanting to miss a chance to dig into the conservative and religious right. All things being equal, both sides do this.
This is not really news per se but sensationalism. 17 year old Claire Ettinger posted this on her sisters blog more as a rant than a factual itinerary of events. Her's was an emotional diatribe for the purpose of venting. A blog such as this is not necessarily meant to attract attention outside her community. Millions of teens rant online about all sorts so what made this rant so special? The motive is quite clear, it gave the left another reason to point out the hypocrisy of the right. If you look at the words she uses, chuck full of hurt feelings, I don't see how anyone could mistake this for an objective news story. The blog is being taken out of context and in many ways, should never have been picked up by the left. It only cheapened them.
Truth is a subjective concept, one that can be accepted or rejected according to a persons prejudices. Claire wrote her perception of the truth, albeit emotionally hyperbolic. To say she lied is inane because her intention on writing this was not meant to be a factual report. While I believe the incident took place, Claire's perceptions seem to be clouded with emotions and considering the event, I don't blame her. But taking her blog about this as some kind of absolute truism is foolish.