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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    X DARPA director....now Google exec?


    Suddenly my trust in Google just dropped a few notches.

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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    For those purposes it would be just as reasonable to use a retina or finger print scan. With the massive data bases gov't and corporations possess, they easily have most of our info.

    No, they want it for other reasons from tracking more accurately to some sort of control. I can dump a phone and get one untraced, as a matter of fact I recently changed carriers and forgot to notify certain services that had no clue how to contact me. Email has already been outdated as a form of contact, except for online receipts for purchases and spam ads.

    It would be like a blackbox I think, recording your movements and used by the alphabet agencies.
    Those are more difficult problems, have less accurate systems, and require more expensive hardware. It's far more difficult to transfer data from one system to another as the ID encoding is dependant on both the hardware and recognition techniques. ie.. what exactly does a finger print look like in memory? How do you encode it in a searchable way? That's another problem with these systems; it's hard to distinguish between very large numbers of individuals. You can't compare a finger print against 300,000,000 other fingerprints, you're going to need some way to significantly parse down the search.

    I don't think anyone working on RFID have any desire to track you. Lets face it, none of us are interesting enough to warrant that kind of attention. I'd call it more of a consumer friendly and cheap form of more secure ID.

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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Imo, hell no, it's not time to microchip humans. The thought literally makes me feel sick to my stomach. Ughhh. What a disgusting thought.
    That's because you're envisioning some sort of mandatory implant a 1984-esque government stuffs into you at birth, and that's not what we're talking about here.
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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    However if means the difference between a desirable job and no job many people will take the chip.Look at drug tests for example.At first no employer required them or made their employer subjected to them.The useful retards out there said if you do not want to worry about taking a piss then you can just get a job that doesn't require or subject you to taking piss tests.Now practically every employer requires or can subject you to a piss test, even many minimum wage or slightly above minimum wage jobs require piss tests or can subject you to piss tests.
    The ones who are going to go full nutball over it don't care about drug user privacy. There are enough who will utterly flip out over the chip, though, that it's pretty unlikely to catch on, at least for a few generations.

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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Those are more difficult problems, have less accurate systems, and require more expensive hardware. It's far more difficult to transfer data from one system to another as the ID encoding is dependant on both the hardware and recognition techniques. ie.. what exactly does a finger print look like in memory? How do you encode it in a searchable way? That's another problem with these systems; it's hard to distinguish between very large numbers of individuals. You can't compare a finger print against 300,000,000 other fingerprints, you're going to need some way to significantly parse down the search.

    I don't think anyone working on RFID have any desire to track you. Lets face it, none of us are interesting enough to warrant that kind of attention. I'd call it more of a consumer friendly and cheap form of more secure ID.
    Finger printing criminals as a form of ID has been happening for decades. Law enforcement agencies have software that match the prints image with records.

    I agree with your last statement as a cheap form of ID but there's still more to it. There's too many possibilities for abuse and misuse for people to accept it, willingly, yet. They'll probably come out with an encrypted nano-tech tattoo next.
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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings | Collective-Evolution


    An ex DARPA director and Google exec want to start putting implants into people, good idea? You might not be able to draw money or grocery shop without authentication and identification.

    I think we all could see this coming with technology and gov't control increasing. Is it time to Microchip the human race? Though, I can already see the hackers finding ways of changing the identities. Where there's a lock, there's always a thief.
    A mark by which you will be known and without which you won't be able to work or shop?

    Didn't the bible warn about that?
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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    There's no way this becomes mandatory; but that said it's not a bad idea. A passive RFID tag could give you secure access to everything. ID theft would become much harder, you wouldn't need keys for your house or car. You wouldn't even need to carry your wallet and ID. You're already tracked everywhere you go with your cell phone. And you need to carry all of these credentials everywhere you go. And they have a limited range, which means that it would be pretty tough to be scanned without your knowledge.

    So you could carry keys, wallet, credit cards, and ids... or get a rice sized implant which does the work of all of them.
    Wouldn't that just turn identity theft into a crime of violence? Cut that sucker out and get an all access pass.
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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    A mark by which you will be known and without which you won't be able to work or shop?

    Didn't the bible warn about that?
    Yea, I don't take much of the bible literally, especially Revelations but that is a little spooky. What if the chips design is in the form of 666, "momma"?
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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Here's some old articles about ADS......


    FDA Warns Firm About Chip Marketing

    November 20, 2002 | From Reuters

    Applied Digital Solutions Inc. has improperly marketed its implanted microchip for medical uses, regulators warned in a letter. The VeriChip is a scannable device, implanted under the skin, that contains an identification number. The maker has said it may be useful for finding missing persons or speeding up medical diagnoses. The Food and Drug Administration ruled in October that it would not regulate the VeriChip if it were not sold for medical applications.


    First Humans to Receive ID Chips

    May 9, 2002 | David Streitfeld, Times Staff Writer

    Eight people will be injected with silicon chips Friday, making them scannable just like a jar of peanut butter in the supermarket checkout line. The miniature devices, about the size of a grain of rice, were developed by a Florida company. They will be targeted to families of Alzheimer's patients--one of the fastest growing groups in American society--as well as others who have complicated medical histories. "It's a safety precaution," explained Nate Isaacson.



    U.S. Backs Microchip Access to Patient's Data

    October 14, 2004 | From Times Wire Reports

    A microchip that can be implanted under the skin to give doctors instant access to a patient's records has won government approval, a step that could revolutionize medical care but is raising alarm among privacy advocates. The chip transmits a unique code to a scanner that allows doctors to confirm a patient's identity and obtain detailed medical information from an accompanying database. Applied Digital Solutions Inc. of Delray Beach, Fla.

    Articles about Applied Digital Solutions Inc - Los Angeles Times



    I think it would be too tempting for some parents to put a chip in their kids so they could track their every move.

    But what do you think about implanting them in sex offenders or parolees instead of using an ankle bracelet?
    If a sex offender, or parolee is needs to be monitored that closely, he needs to be in jail.
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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Wouldn't that just turn identity theft into a crime of violence? Cut that sucker out and get an all access pass.
    Well... people might notice if you try to check out with someone elses' bloody hand.

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