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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I don't think they'll sell this tech very easily. At first it will be optional to show how beneficial it is, then as people see they can't hardly function in modern society without it, they'll push it hard.

    Of course we can be tracked already to some degree, but I fear any ability to manipulate this tech for nefarious purposes will be the real hurdle. And yes it could be both a positive and negative, like most things of impact.

    The thing I don't like is the treatment of humans like cattle or herds. And a chip could hold all your records, including medical, financial, education/employment, criminal etc.
    The chip won't hold anything, it would just be authentication. There wouldn't be any additional data or tracking, it's just an easier way to access it.

    You're right that there's a lot of work to do on privacy, and just because we can do something doesn't mean we should.

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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    If you have an EZ-Pass, you already know this is going to happen and you know how they are going to do it.

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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    ID theft becomes simpler, there is only one lock to bypass, RFID cypher. Good security requires defense in depth each layer different from the others and independent from the others. Time is the enemy of the thief. Soak up the thief's time and efforts. Nothing is one hundred percent, but with good security the likelihood of you being target and your id stolen successfully is far less.
    It's no less secure than any other method, and it allows for multple levels of security.. ie cryptorfid + pin

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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    i doubt it will ever happen because the average person would be repelled by it. some, on the other hand, actually would resist with force. it would just be a big mess. if they really are planning something like this, they need to put down the opium pipe.

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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Here's some old articles about ADS......


    FDA Warns Firm About Chip Marketing

    November 20, 2002 | From Reuters

    Applied Digital Solutions Inc. has improperly marketed its implanted microchip for medical uses, regulators warned in a letter. The VeriChip is a scannable device, implanted under the skin, that contains an identification number. The maker has said it may be useful for finding missing persons or speeding up medical diagnoses. The Food and Drug Administration ruled in October that it would not regulate the VeriChip if it were not sold for medical applications.


    First Humans to Receive ID Chips

    May 9, 2002 | David Streitfeld, Times Staff Writer

    Eight people will be injected with silicon chips Friday, making them scannable just like a jar of peanut butter in the supermarket checkout line. The miniature devices, about the size of a grain of rice, were developed by a Florida company. They will be targeted to families of Alzheimer's patients--one of the fastest growing groups in American society--as well as others who have complicated medical histories. "It's a safety precaution," explained Nate Isaacson.



    U.S. Backs Microchip Access to Patient's Data

    October 14, 2004 | From Times Wire Reports

    A microchip that can be implanted under the skin to give doctors instant access to a patient's records has won government approval, a step that could revolutionize medical care but is raising alarm among privacy advocates. The chip transmits a unique code to a scanner that allows doctors to confirm a patient's identity and obtain detailed medical information from an accompanying database. Applied Digital Solutions Inc. of Delray Beach, Fla.

    Articles about Applied Digital Solutions Inc - Los Angeles Times



    I think it would be too tempting for some parents to put a chip in their kids so they could track their every move.

    But what do you think about implanting them in sex offenders or parolees instead of using an ankle bracelet?
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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Depends on how its used, could you imagine it as part of a ultra-controling society? Sure. Could you imagine it as a tool that could tell someone your medical information, or your bank information, or any other kind of data about you that you probably already readily and easily give it at times of your choosing?

    I may not get one, I'm kind of old fashion (I don't even have a smart phone) but having a micro-chip would not be the end of the world depending on how its used.

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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I don't think they'll sell this tech very easily. At first it will be optional to show how beneficial it is, then as people see they can't hardly function in modern society without it, they'll push it hard.
    I see employers requiring this for security clearance and politicians with their lips on the cocks of business owners will agree to this.Luckily some states have banned employers from requiring chip implants. This **** should be stopped in it's tracks period before the useful retards out there can get a chance to agree to that technology.

    Microchip implant (human) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    The chip won't hold anything, it would just be authentication. There wouldn't be any additional data or tracking, it's just an easier way to access it.

    You're right that there's a lot of work to do on privacy, and just because we can do something doesn't mean we should.
    For those purposes it would be just as reasonable to use a retina or finger print scan. With the massive data bases gov't and corporations possess, they easily have most of our info.

    No, they want it for other reasons from tracking more accurately to some sort of control. I can dump a phone and get one untraced, as a matter of fact I recently changed carriers and forgot to notify certain services that had no clue how to contact me. Email has already been outdated as a form of contact, except for online receipts for purchases and spam ads.

    It would be like a blackbox I think, recording your movements and used by the alphabet agencies.
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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I see employers requiring this for security clearance and politicians with their lips on the cocks of business owners will agree to this.Luckily some states have banned employers from requiring chip implants. This **** should be stopped in it's tracks period before the useful retards out there can get a chance to agree to that technology.

    Microchip implant (human) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The world's gov't and industrial leaders already have a brand for us "breeders and feeders", and feel a need to cull the ranks and control the herd. It's not all meant to be a bad thing, but it's also not easy to foresee the problems and invasions of privacy from it.
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    Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i doubt it will ever happen because the average person would be repelled by it. some, on the other hand, actually would resist with force. it would just be a big mess. if they really are planning something like this, they need to put down the opium pipe.
    However if means the difference between a desirable job and no job many people will take the chip.Look at drug tests for example.At first no employer required them or made their employer subjected to them.The useful retards out there said if you do not want to worry about taking a piss then you can just get a job that doesn't require or subject you to taking piss tests.Now practically every employer requires or can subject you to a piss test, even many minimum wage or slightly above minimum wage jobs require piss tests or can subject you to piss tests.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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