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    They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Partyer

    As a fan of Louie I've been aware of and then following the dust up about his comments on Common Core. His sentiments are pretty similar to mine, as well as virtually every family member I have that is in public education. Interesting read.

    They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Partyer - Salon.com

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    Sometimes it takes a comedian to make a serious point.

    When Louis C.K. went on a Twitter rant about the standardized tests and Common Core State Standards being rolled out in his own children’s public schools, he brought to mind other instances where comedians have broken through the fog of typical policy debate to reflect how most people really feel about an issue.

    Similarly, what Louis C.K. said about current education policies like standardized testing and the Common Core occurred against a backdrop of popular dissent.

    A Movement, Not a Moment

    When new standardized tests Louis C.K. railed against rolled out in New York, at least 33,000 students skipped the tests. At one Brooklyn school, so many parents opted their students out of the tests the teachers were told they were no longer needed to proctor the exams. At another Brooklyn school, 80 percent of the students opted out. Elsewhere in Long Island, 41 school districts in Nassau and Suffolk counties reported thousands of students refusing to take the test, and an additional district reported hundreds more. What is happening in New York is indicative of a groundswell of popular dissent – what Peter Rothberg, a journalist for the Nation and a New York City parent, called a “nationwide movement” – against the overuse and abuse of standardized testing in public schools.
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    Re: They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Part

    He is allowed his opinion no matter his political leanings.

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    Re: They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Part

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    He is allowed his opinion no matter his political leanings.
    Which nobody has said he wasn't.

    What his opinions speak to is the "teaching to the test" that occurs now. These standardized tests are SO important to the school that the teachers have to devote most of their time preparing the kids to take this test. Which is exactly what Liberals were talking about during Bush's "No Child Left Behind" BS. To say that these are "Conservative" ideas is wrong. It's common sense ideas vs. government ideas.


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    Re: They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Part

    It's a pretty fair article on the problems associated with CC. I wish more people would become actively involved in their children's "new" curriculum. It so sad what policy drones are doing to our education system. Education has never, EVER been a one size fits all. Any movement in that direction should always be concerning.

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    Re: They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Part

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which nobody has said he wasn't.

    What his opinions speak to is the "teaching to the test" that occurs now. These standardized tests are SO important to the school that the teachers have to devote most of their time preparing the kids to take this test. Which is exactly what Liberals were talking about during Bush's "No Child Left Behind" BS. To say that these are "Conservative" ideas is wrong. It's common sense ideas vs. government ideas.
    I understand that, but being an entertainer people assume he is a hard lefty.

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    Re: They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Part

    Is there justification for referring to Common Core as a progressive indoctrination program?

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    Re: They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Part

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which nobody has said he wasn't.

    What his opinions speak to is the "teaching to the test" that occurs now. These standardized tests are SO important to the school that the teachers have to devote most of their time preparing the kids to take this test. Which is exactly what Liberals were talking about during Bush's "No Child Left Behind" BS. To say that these are "Conservative" ideas is wrong. It's common sense ideas vs. government ideas.
    Which brings us the the real problem, how can we objectively measure how good the education is in a way that will not be vulnerable to juking the stats

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    Re: They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Part

    I honestly have mixed emotions about this. The U.S. school system has a few bright spots but has become mostly a cesspool of indoctrination, social engineering, theory, and incompetence and simply doesn't do a whole lot of education any more. I have interviewed high school students who were not literate enough to fill out a comprehensive job application form. There needs to be some method to identify the children who are deficient in some subject or subjects and help them catch up instead of just doing social promotion to move them along.

    But I also hate the concept of teaching to a standardized test as that is not education but a kind of fancy trivial pursuit game.

    I do think kids need to be tested around fourth or fifth grade and then again around eight grade just to verify they are getting the basics. It also advises teachers, students, parents when a child needs some remedial work in order to better ensure success in doing more advanced studies that will be coming up. But I think those tests need to be radically changed from year to year just as the SATs are so that the teachers won't know what will be on them and will teach the whole subject.

    I also believe that if there is any hint of social engineering garbage on the tests, whoever wrote the test should be fired immediately.
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    Re: They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Part

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Is there justification for referring to Common Core as a progressive indoctrination program?
    Nobody in the article said anything like that nor has anyone in the thread. However if anyone did make such a claim I'd say they were employing a healthy dose of hyperbole.
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    Re: They’re lying about Louis C.K.: He’s right about Common Core — and not a Tea Part

    Louis C.K. loves fat chicks. He has no merit.

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