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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is one of the main reasons I call for Obama to be impeached and removed from office. Unfortunately, Republicans want to dwell more on Benghazi fairy tales than the real world that Obama is totally screwing with.
    For allowing an intelligence agency to spy?

    That's their whole point
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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    For allowing an intelligence agency to spy?

    That's their whole point
    On their own freaking people? That's MY point!! If I am not breaking the law, then whatever the **** I do is none of the government's damn business.
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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    On their own freaking people? That's MY point!! If I am not breaking the law, then whatever the **** I do is none of the government's damn business.
    Time for you to go back and read what you quoted.
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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    This is what they are supposed to do: spy on the world for the advantage of the US.

    It is the spying on us which is the outrage and for which they need to be held accountable for.
    The position that any type of international spying is acceptable is based on the notion that people in other countries have no right to privacy. I believe all people are entitled to that right.

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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    That position is based on the notion that people in other countries have no right to privacy. I believe all people are entitled to that right.
    And all people should have a right to life, so all armies should be disbanded, too.

    It's incredibly naive, and something only someone with no responsibility for national defense would espouse.
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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I fully expect other countries to try and spy on us, and I fully expect my country to try and spy on them. The only thing we did wrong was get caught imho
    You are spying on yourselves....

    You are spying on your allies...


    and as the latter, I intend to do everything in my power to remove from office the government which has been complicit in this spying and replace it with one that will simply tell Washington to **** off......
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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You are spying on yourselves....

    You are spying on your allies...


    and as the latter, I intend to do everything in my power to remove from office the government which has been complicit in this spying and replace it with one that will simply tell Washington to **** off......
    Are you familiar with Five Eyes? Ottawa isn't going to tell Washington to **** off, because Ottawa is just as ingrained in it. It's a partnership, and the vast majority of the signals intelligence is shared between the members.

    They're- GASP!- all happy to have intelligence to provide key atmospherics to events, decisions, and policies. Who would've imagined that? That people who have to make important decisions enjoy having the most information regarding it that they can possibly have? Would you have guessed that?
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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Are you familiar with Five Eyes? Ottawa isn't going to tell Washington to **** off, because Ottawa is just as ingrained in it. It's a partnership, and the vast majority of the signals intelligence is shared between the members.

    They're- GASP!- all happy to have intelligence to provide key atmospherics to events, decisions, and policies. Who would've imagined that? That people who have to make important decisions enjoy having the most information regarding it that they can possibly have? Would you have guessed that?


    Oh, an American who has been following internal Canadian politics?

    Harper slit his political wrists by cooperating with Obama at the G-8/G-20....welcome back the Liberals as in Pierre Trudeau, the thorn in the side of Johnson, Nixon, Ford and Carter, and Chretien, who won four straight elections campaigning against Washington.

    Spying for military purposes is OK, when you start tracking the lives of school aged children of your allies, that's a deep rooted, sick and twisted paranoia Canadians find repulsive.....

    We will see but you have few friends here anymore, especially after the Ukraine
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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Oh, an American who has been following internal Canadian politics?

    Harper slit his political wrists by cooperating with Obama at the G-8/G-20....welcome back the Liberals as in Pierre Trudeau, the thorn in the side of Johnson, Nixon, Ford and Carter, and Chretien, who won four straight elections campaigning against Washington.

    Spying for military purposes is OK, when you start tracking the lives of school aged children of your allies, that's a deep rooted, sick and twisted paranoia Canadians find repulsive.....

    We will see but you have few friends here anymore, especially after the Ukraine
    It really has nothing to do with internal politics. Canada was so upset with the UK regarding the Suez crisis that they changed their flag...but they still remained part of Five Eyes.

    Look at the classification markings on the stuff Snowden leaked...Canada is part of this. A wonderful ally to the US, UK, New Zealand, and Australia. Political winds about anti-spying won't change the greatest intelligence alliance in the history of mankind; policy makers are too smart for that.
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    Re: More NSA Secrets Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    The position that any type of international spying is acceptable is based on the notion that people in other countries have no right to privacy. I believe all people are entitled to that right.
    No it is based on the fact that other nations are potential threats and no government can function or survivie without trying to learn them.

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