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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

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    There are racists in the world that agree with Cliven Bundy. Why broadcast and denounce his beliefs but not terrorist beliefs? And what logic dictates that we just ignore injustice like this?

    So, what was the right way to prevent this mass kidnapping? If putting them on the watch list and collecting information was wrong, what was right?
    nigeria did not request for help from the united states.

    if we had attempted to stop the kidnapping we would have been violating the sovereignty of Nigeria.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    nigeria did not request for help from the united states.

    if we had attempted to stop the kidnapping we would have been violating the sovereignty of Nigeria.
    You don't know that they wouldn't have. Had we had the right intelligence, maybe just telling Nigeria would have been enough. Nigeria has had some success in dealing with this organization. If all we did was call up Nigeria and tell them what the plan was, there is a good chance that it would have been stopped.

    Like I said, we can't know exactly what we could have done because we did not act. That, is the tragedy here. Yes, the terrorists are to blame for their own actions. But, so are we for our inaction.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    You really should read before you type. Boko Haram was formed in 2002 and did not make a single terror attack until 2010. For 2 points, can anyone in the class tell me when President Bush's term in office ended? Buehler? Buehler? Oh...did I hear January 20th, 2009? They did have some skirmishes with local police in 2009...but still not during Bush's term in office. Before that, they operated more like a religious cult. They attracted poor, uneducated locals. They fed them, taught their children (mostly radical islam) and over all brainwashed them. That let them form a small army, which they didn't begin to use until 2009 in any significant way.

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    See, I kind of feel like you are describing yourself. I based my information on facts that I can find in reliable news sources and websites. You are just shooting from the hip with personal attacks and baseless allegations. Who is the desperate one here?
    The desperate ones are those who are trying to blame Hillary Clinton for atrocities done by one of a thousand African terrorist groups over the past decade. Just a thought... how about we admit that not even the big, bad US can stop every genocide, tribal massacre, and terrorist group all around the world, and distorting reality in order to play partisan politics is dishonest and contemptible? Because that is exactly what you are doing.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Can anyone explain to me why the issue of a country designating this group a terror org would have prevented this from happening?

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    You don't know that they wouldn't have. Had we had the right intelligence, maybe just telling Nigeria would have been enough. Nigeria has had some success in dealing with this organization. If all we did was call up Nigeria and tell them what the plan was, there is a good chance that it would have been stopped.

    Like I said, we can't know exactly what we could have done because we did not act. That, is the tragedy here. Yes, the terrorists are to blame for their own actions. But, so are we for our inaction.
    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    The desperate ones are those who are trying to blame Hillary Clinton for atrocities done by one of a thousand African terrorist groups over the past decade. Just a thought... how about we admit that not even the big, bad US can stop every genocide, tribal massacre, and terrorist group all around the world, and distorting reality in order to play partisan politics is dishonest and contemptible? Because that is exactly what you are doing.
    Read the post above yours. I explicitly said the terrorists are to blame for their actions, but we are to blame for our inaction.

    C'mon. Don't waste my time with your political hackery.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Can anyone explain to me why the issue of a country designating this group a terror org would have prevented this from happening?
    It would have provided authorization for intelligence agencies to gather information, prevent and/or track travel, intercept communications, etc.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    These guys need to be put down like a rabid dog. They don't care who they go after. Muslim, Christian, or other. What say ye?
    Ye-up. Straight up just-to-watch-it-burn nutso's.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Can anyone explain to me why the issue of a country designating this group a terror org would have prevented this from happening?
    ....we have a whole defense and intelligence community large chunks of which are dedicated to finding, tracking, and then neutralizing terrorist groups?

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    It would have provided authorization for intelligence agencies to gather information, prevent and/or track travel, intercept communications, etc.
    And this only happens with the designation? Pretty sure the intelligence community gathers this sort of info on non-terrorist groups abroad.

    Pretty sure the NSA revealed that it doesn't matter how you're designated as long as you're foreign. Aside from blocking travel, but that's a bit useless in this boko situation.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Can anyone explain to me why the issue of a country designating this group a terror org would have prevented this from happening?
    Because there are laws that prevent US military forces from surveilling and engaging groups that aren't designated as terrorists.
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