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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I most certainly did read it. Did you?

    Because if you had read it, you'd know that the reason she declined to list the entire organization was because a coalition of African experts begged her not to, citing the fear that "But a group of academic experts on Africa sent a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton last month urging her not to take the step, saying it could backfire by enhancing the group's reputation among potential recruits and other militants."

    In fact, if you'd even read my entire post that you quoted you'd know that.
    Having multiple people be wrong with you, doesn't make you right. It is a statement of fact. Had the organization been put on the list when it was first suggested, we would have more intel on their operation than we do today. It is impossible to know what that intel would have done for us, but the safe bet is it would be more beneficial than not having it.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Having multiple people be wrong with you, doesn't make you right. It is a statement of fact. Had the organization been put on the list when it was first suggested, we would have more intel on their operation than we do today. It is impossible to know what that intel would have done for us, but the safe bet is it would be more beneficial than not having it.
    And would have given orginization international recognition.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And would have given orginization international recognition.
    So? Are we really going to ignore terrorism because people might actually see that there are terrorists out there?

    Would you apply the same logic to domestic problems? Like...say...Cliven Bundy. Should the press not have covered his racist remarks because they brought attention to racism?

    I want to know how to address a problem if we don't identify the problem.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Having multiple people be wrong with you, doesn't make you right. It is a statement of fact. Had the organization been put on the list when it was first suggested, we would have more intel on their operation than we do today. It is impossible to know what that intel would have done for us, but the safe bet is it would be more beneficial than not having it.
    Well, if the timing is what you're using to run your "Blame Hillary" facade, and you have evidence that the $7 million bounty that she put on the leaders' heads were insufficient despite what the world's foremost African experts advised at the time, then let's go back to Bush's administration, which completely ignored Boko Haram, which was also active in Nigeria during his tenure.

    See, that's the thing when people are so desperate to tarnish an individual that they twist, distort, fabricate and create justifications for their hatred; the justifications just don't make sense, aren't rational, and are easily dismissed by facts. And it is not a fact that simply including the entire organization on the terrorist list would have either given us more intel... it may have, but it probably wouldn't since to get such intel one must have a sovereign nation's approval, which we have never had... or would have prevented these abductions and other atrocities. It is simply your speculation, a speculation again based only upon your desire to pin this and any other atrocity around the world squarely on Hillary's back.

    It's transparent, it's partisan hackery at its most contemptible, and it's disgusting.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    So? Are we really going to ignore terrorism because people might actually see that there are terrorists out there?

    Would you apply the same logic to domestic problems? Like...say...Cliven Bundy. Should the press not have covered his racist remarks because they brought attention to racism?

    I want to know how to address a problem if we don't identify the problem.
    if this local organization becomes recognized internationally, it could potentially use its new status to broadcast its ideology. there still fanatics in the world that share this groups beliefs and could potentially rally under their banner.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Let them solve their own problems and stay the fk out of it. This kind of crap is all over that area.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well, if the timing is what you're using to run your "Blame Hillary" facade, and you have evidence that the $7 million bounty that she put on the leaders' heads were insufficient despite what the world's foremost African experts advised at the time, then let's go back to Bush's administration, which completely ignored Boko Haram, which was also active in Nigeria during his tenure.
    You really should read before you type. Boko Haram was formed in 2002 and did not make a single terror attack until 2010. For 2 points, can anyone in the class tell me when President Bush's term in office ended? Buehler? Buehler? Oh...did I hear January 20th, 2009? They did have some skirmishes with local police in 2009...but still not during Bush's term in office. Before that, they operated more like a religious cult. They attracted poor, uneducated locals. They fed them, taught their children (mostly radical islam) and over all brainwashed them. That let them form a small army, which they didn't begin to use until 2009 in any significant way.

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    See, that's the thing when people are so desperate to tarnish an individual that they twist, distort, fabricate and create justifications for their hatred; the justifications just don't make sense, aren't rational, and are easily dismissed by facts. And it is not a fact that simply including the entire organization on the terrorist list would have either given us more intel... it may have, but it probably wouldn't since to get such intel one must have a sovereign nation's approval, which we have never had... or would have prevented these abductions and other atrocities. It is simply your speculation, a speculation again based only upon your desire to pin this and any other atrocity around the world squarely on Hillary's back.

    It's transparent, it's partisan hackery at its most contemptible, and it's disgusting.
    See, I kind of feel like you are describing yourself. I based my information on facts that I can find in reliable news sources and websites. You are just shooting from the hip with personal attacks and baseless allegations. Who is the desperate one here?
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    if this local organization becomes recognized internationally, it could potentially use its new status to broadcast its ideology. there still fanatics in the world that share this groups beliefs and could potentially rally under their banner.
    There are racists in the world that agree with Cliven Bundy. Why broadcast and denounce his beliefs but not terrorist beliefs? And what logic dictates that we just ignore injustice like this?

    So, what was the right way to prevent this mass kidnapping? If putting them on the watch list and collecting information was wrong, what was right?
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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