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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Sending troops into Africa would end up with our forces there for a decade chasing the various terrorists. Since our troops would blend in so well with the locals you can also forsee a high number of casualities suffered by us.

    It might even be cheaper than sending troops just to send cash and buy the girls?

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Good morning Perotista,
    According to the person that requested the help on behalf of the Nigerian government, (a former U.S. general) his recent statement claims he has yet to get a response from our government. From what I have gathered, back in 2011 the CIA and FBI along with several members in Congress were urging then Sec. State Clinton to officially list Boko Haram on the U.S list as recognized terrorist group. Clinton for whatever her reasons refused to. Then later she listed 3 leaders of the group as terrorists in 2012. However, this really limited the scope and tied our hands in how to proceed. Finally after she left office and Kerry took over, it wasn't until November of 2013 that Kerry had the group officially listed and recognized as a terrorist group. Now it looks like these terrorists have got a real foothold in the region and hundreds of young girls have been kidnapped and God knows what their future holds. In light of what is happening today, whatever reasons this administration has for not aiding the Nigerians in fighting their own home grown terrorists and for delaying them being recognized as a terrorist group, has obviously been poor choices.
    Interesting, not helping with intel surprises me. I do wonder at times if during the last 5 and one half years if we haven't let political correctness interfere with the proper labeling of terrorist groups and not calling a spade a spade. Why is it this administration has a very hard time calling or naming extreme Islamic terrorist, extreme Islamic terrorist. It seems to me when it comes to the word Islam or Muslim used in conjunction with terrorists, those words do not exist in this administration's vocabulary. I may be wrong about that, but that is the way it seems to me.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Interesting, not helping with intel surprises me. I do wonder at times if during the last 5 and one half years if we haven't let political correctness interfere with the proper labeling of terrorist groups and not calling a spade a spade. Why is it this administration has a very hard time calling or naming extreme Islamic terrorist, extreme Islamic terrorist. It seems to me when it comes to the word Islam or Muslim used in conjunction with terrorists, those words do not exist in this administration's vocabulary. I may be wrong about that, but that is the way it seems to me.
    Political Correctness may play some part but I think the real problem lies in how the leftists view terrorism. They base policy on a social theory......seeing terrorists as victims of their surroundings not evil. That is why they have been so political correct to not call a terrorist a terrorist. But lets face it, their counter-terrorism policies have been total failures from Iran, the Syrian rebels, Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood, Benghazi and now Boko Haram in Nigeria .

    Here's an article written by a very smart woman on the topic that explains in detail this social theory the leftists in the Obama administration operate under. It isn't a long piece and worth the read.

    Boko Haram and the Failure of Obama's Counter-Terrorism Strategy
    Last edited by vesper; 05-11-14 at 04:48 PM.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Political Correctness may play some part but I think the real problem lies in how the leftists view terrorism. They base policy on a social theory......seeing terrorists as victims of their surroundings not evil. That is why they have been so political correct to not call a terrorist a terrorist. But lets face it, their counter-terrorism policies have been total failures from Iran, the Syrian rebels, Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood, Benghazi and now Boko Haram in Nigeria .

    Here's an article written by a very smart woman on the topic that explains in detail this social theory the leftists in the Obama administration operate under. It isn't a long piece and worth the read.

    Boko Haram and the Failure of Obama's Counter-Terrorism Strategy
    Very interesting, I never thought of it those terms. But the article does make sense. Today, way too often when someone does something wrong it is never the fault of the individual who did the wrong. It is always the environment he grew up in, or his child hood, his parents beat him, he was bulled as a kid. Everyone and everything gets the blame except the individual who did the wrong. Yep, the article make sense.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Very interesting, I never thought of it those terms. But the article does make sense. Today, way too often when someone does something wrong it is never the fault of the individual who did the wrong. It is always the environment he grew up in, or his child hood, his parents beat him, he was bulled as a kid. Everyone and everything gets the blame except the individual who did the wrong. Yep, the article make sense.
    It's possible to condemn terrorism and a terrorist and still recognize socioeconomic factors. It's not an either-or situation. So spare us the false dichotomy, they're really not that interesting.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Sending troops into Africa would end up with our forces there for a decade chasing the various terrorists. Since our troops would blend in so well with the locals you can also forsee a high number of casualities suffered by us.

    It might even be cheaper than sending troops just to send cash and buy the girls?


    Heya Crosscheck. We already have a Drone Base in Djibouti.....so its not like we can't get eyes in the Sky.

    Not to mention the French has it Foreign Legion there.....with like 4k Troops.

    They are involved in several others Business in Africa.....so why didn't they jump to help out First and Right away.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Please explain to me where you see an attack on anything in my comment....are you perhaps attempting to attack me?


    If you are, you have failed.
    Sorry mate, should have made my post more clear, I was knocking on From your post, about Ksu's one.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ah using the horrific kidnapping of hundreds of girls to attack political opponents... Isn't American politics fantastic?


    Speaking of which there is evidence to suggest Nigerian authorities knew there was a kidnapping threat and did nothing... Guess that's Hillary's fault as well...
    Speaking in Hillary Clinton's defense, What diffrence does it make ?

    Oh crap,I take back what I said. I just saw this.

    Hillary Clinton's Boko Haram problem



    CNN) -->" Hillary Clinton's leadership as secretary of state regarding the Nigerian terrorist group Boko Haram could become at least as serious an issue as her decisions surrounding the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

    Much of the attention Thursday was on the announcement that the House will create a select committee to investigate Benghazi, but the same day, Daily Beast reporter Josh Rogin revealed details about her time as secretary of state that raise significant questions about her broader record on issues of terrorism.

    Rogin reported that from 2011 through early 2013, the Clinton State Department repeatedly rejected efforts to designate Boko Haram as a terrorist organization. In recent weeks, the group has exploded onto the world stage by kidnapping more than 250 girls at a Nigerian boarding school.

    It is so clearly and vividly a terrorist organization that it seems indefensible that the State Department would have refused to designate it as such. A thorough investigation of the decision process that protected Boko Haram from 2011 until late 2013 could be devastating..."<

    Gingrich: Hillary Clinton absent on Boko Haram terrorism designation? - CNN.com

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it's not our playground, and it's they aren't our girls.

    we have many many more go missing here right in our own playground... and you don't see celebs and folks going bananas over getting them back, do ya?

    I wouldn't doubt the Nigerian government gets a kickback on the sales of humans...
    I agree, going in there is just going to make things worse.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Try again. From 2012:

    In first, U.S. adds Boko Haram members to terrorist list | Reuters



    Kinda changes the Hillary-bashing dynamic, doesn't it?

    Did you even read the report? She only designated three people in the entire organization as terrorists. Not the organization itself.
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