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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

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    No, we cannot protect the world. But, in extraordinary circumstances we must. Not because we are the world's protector, but because we can. Those that look evil in the face and turn a blind eye are worse than the evilitself.
    So we get that your first post in this thread is a political jab and nothing else...

    Would you care to explain to the rest of the class how America, not having any personell in northern Nigeria, whose authorities supposedly had early warning about a kidnapping could have done anything to prevent it?

    And as an African myself, I would really prefer it if you didn't use this tragedy as a political football in your idiotic right wing left wing hamster wheel you've bought into.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

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    Ah using the horrific kidnapping of hundreds of girls to attack political opponents... Isn't American politics fantastic?
    Here's a hint, no politics are.

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    Speaking of which there is evidence to suggest Nigerian authorities knew there was a kidnapping threat and did nothing... Guess that's Hillary's fault as well...
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    The sad news is that most of these girls won't be recovered.

    That isn't to say they're gone forever, plenty of girls have been recovered from groups like the lords resistance army who did similar things before... But not until they're much older and have been through a horrific ordeal.

    Physically, mentally and emotionally they will be destroyed and will never be the same again.

    Groups like Boko Haram are the scum of the earth, their power lies in ignorance and fear and they will be defeated, there is no future for barbarians like them.

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ah using the horrific kidnapping of hundreds of girls to attack political opponents... Isn't American politics fantastic?

    Speaking of which there is evidence to suggest Nigerian authorities knew there was a kidnapping threat and did nothing... Guess that's Hillary's fault as well...
    That's the point though, we can't run Nigeria for Nigerians.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So we get that your first post in this thread is a political jab and nothing else...

    Would you care to explain to the rest of the class how America, not having any personell in northern Nigeria, whose authorities supposedly had early warning about a kidnapping could have done anything to prevent it?

    And as an African myself, I would really prefer it if you didn't use this tragedy as a political football in your idiotic right wing left wing hamster wheel you've bought into.
    That snarky comment is funny. Maybe you should redirect your anger at the politics of those from the Dark Continent in which you hail.

    And, BTW, what you prefer is insignificant in a political thread, especially when you request it from those you disparage.
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it's not our playground, and it's they aren't our girls.

    we have many many more go missing here right in our own playground... and you don't see celebs and folks going bananas over getting them back, do ya?

    I wouldn't doubt the Nigerian government gets a kickback on the sales of humans...
    Our girls and women that vanish into thin air get the Wal-Mart treatment I.e. "Have you seen this person?" posters. Their disappearances typically don't get wall-to-wall press coverage (sensationalized). The same goes for our homeless but everyday on some T.V. channel there are the "$.50 a day can save a starving child in (insert African country here), so won't you help?" Or on Fox affiliated channels: "Israel needs your help. Donate $25 and a box of much needed food will be sent in your name to Israel."

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So we get that your first post in this thread is a political jab and nothing else...
    It had nothing to do with politics. It is not an elected office.

    Would you care to explain to the rest of the class how America, not having any personell in northern Nigeria, whose authorities supposedly had early warning about a kidnapping could have done anything to prevent it?
    Drone attack for one. ICBM is another. I am not saying this was preventable, just that we can't know if it was because we didn't even try.

    And as an African myself, I would really prefer it if you didn't use this tragedy as a political football in your idiotic right wing left wing hamster wheel you've bought into.
    So...what? We can't criticize an administration when they are willfully neglectful?

    Let's say the US knew of the attack and did nothing, would you approve or disapprove of that action?
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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Of course, if Clinton had designated this group as a terror group when the evidence was presented to her two years ago, we would be better suited to handle the situation. We could have better intelligence and may even be able to recover some of the girls quickly. We may have even gotten lucky and prevented the attack all together.
    That's true in 2011 the FBI, CIA and some members of Congress were pleading with her to list Boko Haram as an official terrorist organization but she refused to. I'm wondering since it was in the middle of the presidential campaign, the same reason the increase in active terrorist cells in and around Benghazi were not officially recognized is the same reason she wouldn't recognize Boko Haram. After all it would be pretty hard to convince the American people that terrorism was on the run during a campaign while the official list of terrorist groups recognized by the U.S. was increasing. And today there is a piece at ABC that tells another sad story and that is the Nigerian government has been asking for intelligence aid and assistance to fight Boko Haram. The first request was in 2013, the second request was last month. They are still waiting for a response.

    Nigeria Requested US Intel And Military Gear to Fight Terror, Docs Show - ABC News

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Of course, if Clinton had designated this group as a terror group when the evidence was presented to her two years ago, we would be better suited to handle the situation. We could have better intelligence and may even be able to recover some of the girls quickly. We may have even gotten lucky and prevented the attack all together.

    Try again. From 2012:

    In first, U.S. adds Boko Haram members to terrorist list | Reuters

    The United States on Thursday named three alleged leaders of the Nigerian militant group Boko Haram as "foreign terrorists," the first time it has blacklisted members of the Islamist group blamed for attacks across Africa's most populous nation. The State Department identified the three as Abubakar Shekau, calling him the "most visible" leader of the group, and Abubakar Adam Kambar and Khalid al-Barnawi, who it said were tied both to Boko Haram and to al Qaeda's north African wing.

    "These designations demonstrate the United States' resolve in diminishing the capacity of Boko Haram to execute violent attacks," it said, saying that Boko Haram or associated militants were responsible for more than 1,000 deaths in the past 18 months"...

    In January, Lisa Monaco, the Justice Department's top national security official, sent a letter to the State Department arguing the Nigerian group met the criteria for a "foreign terrorist" listing because it either engaged in terrorism that threatens the United States or had a capability or intent to do so.

    But a group of academic experts on Africa sent a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton last month urging her not to take the step, saying it could backfire by enhancing the group's reputation among potential recruits and other militants.
    Kinda changes the Hillary-bashing dynamic, doesn't it?

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    Re: Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

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    There's not much we can do by sending in troops to rescue the Nigerian school girls, because soon as they see soldiers they'll start slaughtering them. If the Boko Haram separate themselves from the girls holding area, we could theoretically drone attack them but we'd need a coordinated ground assault to eliminate all threats and take control of the rescue.

    Now, Intelligence indicates that many of the girls may have been split up into small groups and moved to different locations, and these locations are remote and difficult to penetrate.

    Instead of searching for one group of 250 girls, law enforcement and the military are likely looking for 25 groups of 10 girls or 50 groups of five girls. This poses an enormous challenge and diminishes the possibility of a dramatic rescue that will bring this crisis to a quick close.

    The campaign to apply pressure by reaching out through social media, using the Twitter hashtag '#BringBackOurGirls,' protests have spread across the world calling for the Nigerian government to take stronger action and for the international community to help.

    The point is, what can we do and should we be trying to help more?

    I'm not sure this countries citizens (Hollywood), gov't and Media know when and what to fight.
    For us to do anything, first we must have the government of Nigeria's approval. What the government of Nigeria will approve, will ask for is up to them, not our congress or CNN, ABC or any type of media. I get the sense that Nigeria appreciates and wants help in locating these fellows. But the decision of what to do once they are located, the decision as to what is to be done will be made by them and I think if force is called for, it will the Nigerian military that will take the action.

    We may feel for the girls, but this is a Nigerian problem to be handled by Nigeria as they deem fit.
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