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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I have a hard time believing this story. TEACHERS cannot suspend students or even recommend suspension. That's up to the principle to decide and enforce.
    It actually does say that the principal suspended him, not the teacher.
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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It actually does say that the principal suspended him, not the teacher.
    Must have missed that. Thanks
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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Must have missed that. Thanks
    No problem, I wanted to check once you mentioned it because it would have been very suspicious if it had been the teacher.
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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Plenty.

    I disagree with your assessment of his patriotism.

    But I also disagree with the suspension of children for not reciting nonsensical gibberish of "you must conform"-ities...

    I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

    We're not a republic, there is no liberty and justice for all, we're divided as can be, and most of us are godless savages regardless of where we spend our Sunday mornings...
    You've expressed your opinion, the kid has a right to express his.

    Do you think it's OK to mandate that anyone recite the pledge you've just responded to?
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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not sure why you would ask me that. Was there a point?
    what would be the benefit of explaining what you are unable or unwilling to decern on your own? [rhetorical]


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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You've expressed your opinion, the kid has a right to express his.

    Do you think it's OK to mandate that anyone recite the pledge you've just responded to?
    There is a big difference that I don't think you're thinking about but is very important, so important in fact that its demise (this frame of thought) is one of the main causes for the degradation of our society.

    I'm an adult, the kid is a kid.

    His opinion doesn't old the same weight as mine.

    Why?

    Because HE'S A KID!

    I think that you do a great injustice to the child by not having him say the pledge.

    What injustice is that?

    You're not teaching the kid one of life's most important lessons.

    Sometimes you've got to do things you don't want to, and some times that what life is, one vile friggin task after another.

    When he learns this lesson maybe his opinion will carry more weight, but until then....

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    The pledge has always been a little too sieg heil for my taste which is why I don't support it being in schools. In Canada the children have to listen to the national anthem first thing in the morning and I've had my children omitted from that too.

    They go to school to get an education not salute big brother.

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Slippery slopes suck, huh? With the court judgment that schools can do whatever the hell they want, in response to the freedom of expression of the students, they really opened Pandora's box.
    Schools should not be socialized, and crap like this would never happen.

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The pledge has always been a little too sieg heil for my taste which is why I don't support it being in schools. In Canada the children have to listen to the national anthem first thing in the morning and I've had my children omitted from that too. They go to school to get an education not salute big brother.
    Funny you should mention sieg heil.... originally the hand salute that went with the pledge was NOT hand on heart- but arm extended, palm down, fingers pointed... called the Bellamy Salute after the author of the original Pledge. It can into vogue at the end of the 19th century and ended during WWII.

    Bellamy Heil ya'll!!!!!!

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Funny you should mention sieg heil....
    Well in practice they're not all that different.

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