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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    The article says he loves the country and is mad about the NSA spying on everyone.... sounds like a Good American to me- PRO or CON. I salute him...
    Considering the pledge has to do with the country and not the govt, he doesn't seem to know what he is talking about

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Considering the pledge has to do with the country and not the govt, he doesn't seem to know what he is talking about
    If I promise my loyalty or commitment to the country how am I not pledging allegiance to the government?

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If I promise my loyalty or commitment to the country how am I not pledging allegiance to the government?
    The country is the ideals where as the govt is made for the people by the people and can be changed based on how the people see fit but the ideals America was founded on are immortal. The kid has every right to not say the pledge, however his claim of not doing as a protest to the govt is just ignorant.

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    He's protesting the NSA. That I get. The other thing is "Internet laws"?

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If I promise my loyalty or commitment to the country how am I not pledging allegiance to the government?
    The country is the people, not the government.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Slippery slopes suck, huh? With the court judgment that schools can do whatever the hell they want, in response to the freedom of expression of the students, they really opened Pandora's box.

    IMO, this kids sounds like a spoiled little **** ass, that will make a good, obedient Libbo one day. He probably hates America...but...I certainly support his right to express himself and think it's totally ridiculous to suspend the kid, because he refuses to say The Pledge.
    Screw that, I wouldn't say the pledge of allegiance either. These are our high school kids, not the Hitler Youth.

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Care to cite which court decision it was that said schools can do whatever the hell they want?
    Court: School can ban US flag shirts for safety

    Left the door wide ass open to deprive students of their 1st Amendment rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Care to cite which court decision it was that said schools can do whatever the hell they want?
    i think he is mixed up and is refering to the consistant court rulings that students do not give up their free speech when they are in school and this is correct.
    not standing for the pledge is just as protected as anything else.

    as long as he is not causing a distrubance in what he is doing he is free not to stand and say the pledge for whatever reason he wants.

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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Screw that, I wouldn't say the pledge of allegiance either. These are our high school kids, not the Hitler Youth.
    And that would be your right. However, the Hitler Youth swore and oath to Hitler, not to Germany.
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    Re: Texas high school suspends student for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegia

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    The country is the ideals where as the govt is made for the people by the people and can be changed based on how the people see fit but the ideals America was founded on are immortal. The kid has every right to not say the pledge, however his claim of not doing as a protest to the govt is just ignorant.
    What do you mean the country is the ideals? What are these ideals and why aren't they mentioned in the pledge?

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