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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

roguenuke said:
Why? This was plenty enough to do it.

First, anyone who believes that they have any true control over what is written about them is fooling themselves. You might have temporary control, but it will go rather quickly. Second, it isn't like the Clintons have had really that much more control over what was written about Lewinsky over the last few years. Clinton wrote very little at all about the affair in his book and that was about 10 years ago. They certainly haven't been bringing her up.
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No they don't bring it up, they have their minions do it for them as they have from the beginning painting Lewinsky like a piece of trash just like all the other women Bill has engaged in affairs. The woman is always the one that gets trashed by the Clinton minions. Except for Hillary of course.
 
Lutherf said:
So after 20 years she decides to spill all the secrets? She chooses to do so two years before Hillary hits full blown campaign mode? That's convenient:roll:

If this isn't some kind of deal to dispose of Hillary baggage before the campaign I'll eat my hat.
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The victim is always to blame, never the Clintons.
 
rocket88 said:
I think the point was it was consensual. She didn't say no.
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I know, but people don't have a problem with making derogatory remarks about Monica. Some people actually make it sound as if ladies' man Bill was the victim here. It's utterly ridiculous. I think it's quite obvious who seduced who here. All you have to do is look at the pictures of Monica looking at him to know. Look at how she looks at him!!

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She was quite obviously infatuated with this man (and I'm quite he was good at it too).
 
vesper said:
No they don't bring it up, they have their minions do it for them as they have from the beginning painting Lewinsky like a piece of trash just like all the other women Bill has engaged in affairs. The woman is always the one that gets trashed by the Clinton minions. Except for Hillary of course.
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It's as if "Horn-Dog-in-Chief" is clever or acceptable.
 
nota bene said:
It's as if "Horn-Dog-in-Chief" is clever or acceptable.
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Yep, I remember reading how Lewinsky, Flowers, Brodwick, Willy, and others were absolutely trashed for their testimony by the Clintonites. The same people that claim to be staunch supporters of women's rights. Makes you want to gag over the hypocrisy. And Hillary is no different, she blames herself and Lewinsky for Bill's bad behavior. WTF?
 
vesper said:
No they don't bring it up, they have their minions do it for them as they have from the beginning painting Lewinsky like a piece of trash just like all the other women Bill has engaged in affairs. The woman is always the one that gets trashed by the Clinton minions. Except for Hillary of course.
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No. The Republican party brings it up. Why would the Clintons bother?

But if you have proof that they have brought it up recently on their own, please share.
 
roguenuke said:
No. The Republican party brings it up. Why would the Clintons bother?

But if you have proof that they have brought it up recently on their own, please share.
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Read again, I didn't state the Clintons bring her up, I said their minions bring her up to trash her. Just look at the long time Clinton supporters in the news and their reaction to Monica's article to see after all these years nothing has changed.
 
Oh this is just too much!

This at the Chicago Sun Times.....

The Lewinsky affair . . .

Is Bubba about to blubber?

Sneed hears rumbles former President Bill Clinton, who lied about his affair with White House intern Monica “That Woman” Lewinsky, may opt to publicly apologize for the abuse Lewinsky claims she’s endured since the sex scandal broke more than 15 years ago.

◆ The rationale? To fend off critics of his wife Hillary who blame her for protecting a powerful husband who is a sexual predator. Hillary Clinton is eyeing a 2016 presidential bid.

◆ The big question: Will Bill “I love an audience” Clinton choose to apologize to Lewinsky and his wife for the mess he placed in their lives — and appeal for forgiveness — in order to put the past behind him before his first grandchild is born . . . and reap a lotta love for being a penitent?

Only in America. Stay tuned.

Sneed: There are rumblings Bill Clinton may apologize to wife, Lewinsky - Chicago Sun-Times

Now anyone want to dare not claim that Lewinsky is too hot for the Clintons to handle?
:lamo
 
vesper said:
Read again, I didn't state the Clintons bring her up, I said their minions bring her up to trash her. Just look at the long time Clinton supporters in the news and their reaction to Monica's article to see after all these years nothing has changed.
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Okay, let me rephrase. Any proof that those "minions" are the Clintons' and they are the main ones bringing her up, especially in a negative way? Because frankly, I've come across very few, if any articles that were trying to put down Lewinsky that were from the past decade. At least up til these past few days, after Lewinsky herself "broke her silence".
 
Anthony60 said:
Wow, only got a few posts in before the robotic, erroneous, leftist defense of Clinton. Nah, no scandal here. It's okay to lie under oath about this subject if you are a democrat. Also if you are an abuser of women, a pervert, and all around disgusting human being that any responsible person wouldn't want left in a room along with a female loved one.
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Try again, it's that i'm not such a loser that i care so deeply about blowjobs or call everyone that gets one a "pervert". I wouldn't give a rat's ass if a republican did the same thing, if they weren't so fail at sex to begin with.

It's like i don't care about abortion or birth control. There's plenty other ways now to end a pregnancy or start one. Robotic defense is more like following in line behind the party line for, what's it been, 15 years now? Too pathetic to continue
 
vesper said:
Oh this is just too much!

This at the Chicago Sun Times.....

The Lewinsky affair . . .

Is Bubba about to blubber?

Sneed hears rumbles former President Bill Clinton, who lied about his affair with White House intern Monica “That Woman” Lewinsky, may opt to publicly apologize for the abuse Lewinsky claims she’s endured since the sex scandal broke more than 15 years ago.

◆ The rationale? To fend off critics of his wife Hillary who blame her for protecting a powerful husband who is a sexual predator. Hillary Clinton is eyeing a 2016 presidential bid.

◆ The big question: Will Bill “I love an audience” Clinton choose to apologize to Lewinsky and his wife for the mess he placed in their lives — and appeal for forgiveness — in order to put the past behind him before his first grandchild is born . . . and reap a lotta love for being a penitent?

Only in America. Stay tuned.

Sneed: There are rumblings Bill Clinton may apologize to wife, Lewinsky - Chicago Sun-Times

Now anyone want to dare not claim that Lewinsky is too hot for the Clintons to handle?
:lamo
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So you think what would be an obvious political positive for them would be because they are concerned about Lewinsky coming up this campaign season? What? Pretty much all the articles I've read so far on this have said that her "breaking the silence" is only a positive for a potential Hillary campaign, without anything else attached.

Monica Lewinsky Vanity Fair Interview & Hillary Clinton's Presidency | New Republic

Ruth Marcus: Lewinsky Did Hillary Clinton A Favor | Here & Now

And some Republicans are even speculating that the Clintons set this up (which is possible, I have no idea, although it would certainly go against them presenting her in a negative light).

Lynne Cheney: Hillary Clinton behind Monica Lewinsky? - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com

I figure it's like this, if she doesn't actually mind the media attention, that's really her business. I think its wrong for her to try to claim to want to stay out of the media spotlight, then doing stuff that puts her right back in it. But it won't matter in the long run. I doubt she will ever really become destitute. Sure, she may have trouble finding the exact employment she wants for a long time (at least until the Clintons are no longer really political figures in the US). But she can still get employment if she really wants and she can even write a book. I'd say that she probably should write a book, make as much money as she can. Especially if she feels her notoriety is causing her issues finding the kind of job she really wants. Because this media attention isn't likely to go away any time soon.
 
Bill Clinton is a wimp and a pig and a coward...and the whole Lewinsky affair is just one of many examples of that.

And his wife has stayed with him all throughout...this speaks volumes about her character, IMO - and it ain't good.


Btw, I am neither Dem nor Rep.
 
roguenuke said:
Okay, let me rephrase. Any proof that those "minions" are the Clintons' and they are the main ones bringing her up, especially in a negative way? Because frankly, I've come across very few, if any articles that were trying to put down Lewinsky that were from the past decade. At least up til these past few days, after Lewinsky herself "broke her silence".
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The point is that she is recognized everywhere she goes and she is frustrated that she can't find anyone who will hire her, or that's what she says, so she is still being persecuted for a mistake she made, what? Twenty years ago? She probably figures it doesn't even matter if she comes out with a new book, at least she can make some money, and people are going to know who she is anyway. Why not cash in?
 
chromium said:
Try again, it's that i'm not such a loser that i care so deeply about blowjobs or call everyone that gets one a "pervert". I wouldn't give a rat's ass if a republican did the same thing, if they weren't so fail at sex to begin with.

It's like i don't care about abortion or birth control. There's plenty other ways now to end a pregnancy or start one. Robotic defense is more like following in line behind the party line for, what's it been, 15 years now? Too pathetic to continue
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I guess we have different standards. The guy is an abuser of women, there is a conga line of them claiming abuse, even rape from him. I'm not okay with having a mailman like that, let alone POTUS. And I certainly won't try to dismiss his activities as nothing important.

That leftist defense that it was "just a BJ" is so disgusting, disingenuous, and simply stupid, I have no respect for anyone that puts that out there. Obviously, anyone saying that has never read the charges against him because you are missing a lot.
 
ChrisL said:
The point is that she is recognized everywhere she goes and she is frustrated that she can't find anyone who will hire her, or that's what she says, so she is still being persecuted for a mistake she made, what? Twenty years ago? She probably figures it doesn't even matter if she comes out with a new book, at least she can make some money, and people are going to know who she is anyway. Why not cash in?
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I agree.
 
ChrisL said:
The point is that she is recognized everywhere she goes and she is frustrated that she can't find anyone who will hire her,
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She got a 12 million dollar book deal. She needs to work why? She'll suffer in poverty.
 
ChrisL said:
Oh please, when you stay married to the husband who cheated on you but call the person he cheated with names, then it's obvious who is bearing the brunt of blame in the situation. The other woman of course.

Right . . . Monica the 22-year-old intern seduced Slick Willy. :lol:
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You don't think the seduction was mutual?

What do you think Monica was doing with her thong? Impressing Bill with her flossing skills?
 
Perotista said:
Possible I think. That is if a Republican wins in 2016. If not, Obamacare is here to stay.[/QUO

There is still a chance that it can fall under constitutional challenges. One is ongoing now in regards to the exchanges.
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year2late said:
You don't think the seduction was mutual?

What do you think Monica was doing with her thong? Impressing Bill with her flossing skills?
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Lol, my point is to those who are denigrating Monica about this (and that doesn't necessarily mean you), that he is mostly to blame. HE was the POTUS, he was the one who was married. Whatever you think about her actions, there is no denying that she was young and naive and infatuated. Just because you use sexuality to get what you want does NOT mean you aren't naive. Even some teenage girls know these things, that does not mean they know what they're getting themselves into.
 
ChrisL said:
Lol, my point is to those who are denigrating Monica about this (and that doesn't necessarily mean you), that he is mostly to blame. HE was the POTUS, he was the one who was married. Whatever you think about her actions, there is no denying that she was young and naive and infatuated. Just because you use sexuality to get what you want does NOT mean you aren't naive. Even some teenage girls know these things, that does not mean they know what they're getting themselves into.
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I denigrate her about her past behavior. She had sexual liaisons with two married men. But it was water under the bridge. I believe in the capacity for change. But frankly, if I was married to either one of them - my trust would be shaky at best. But as an outsider 20 years after the fact - it is a great big "hookairs".

And frankly - who gives a hoot that she was 18 when she had her first prolonged affair with a married man. She was 22 when she took up with Clinton. Unless you tell me she lacked the capacity to discern right from wrong...she clearly shares responsibility .

But both cheating husbands are rat bastards. Doesn't stop the reality that she was absolutely no innocent. And if someone hadn't posted this article (let alone made like she was a teen at the time - instead of a college grad already with a history of a long affair with a married man) it would never have been on my radar.

Just curious if any of the married women on this board would think of the 22 year old sleeping with their husbands were innocent victims.:lamo
 
Top Cat said:
She got a 12 million dollar book deal. She needs to work why? She'll suffer in poverty.
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I heard she was shopping for a deal but can not find anywhere where that was finalized. Hope she does write a book. Hope she makes mega millions. After what the media, and the Clintonites and their minions did to her painting her as some ditzy predatory White House Intern never letting up on trash talk, hope she lives the rest of her life in opulence in spite of it. By the way you do know that one of the Clinton's biggest media minions has been Maureen Dowd and she got her Pulitzer prize for relentlessly going after Lewinsky painting her up to be some crazy bimbo. That's how leftist women roll. They have double standards. They claim equality for women but if you make their man look bad, you're trashed.

Monica Lewinsky returns: How Maureen Dowd caricatured Bill Clinton’s mistress as a crazy bimbo.
 
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year2late said:
You don't think the seduction was mutual?

What do you think Monica was doing with her thong? Impressing Bill with her flossing skills?
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And where was this man's self control twice her age? Tucked into a pocket in his other trousers?
 
year2late said:
Just curious if any of the married women on this board would think of the 22 year old sleeping with their husbands were innocent victims.:lamo
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I'm a married woman. I've been married to the same man almost 20 years. We've been together over 25 years. If he came to me and admitted to an affair with a 22 year old, I'd probably take an iron frying pan and ram it up his ass. Would I have any thoughts about the 22 year old woman? Nope. She wasn't standing next to me in my white dress at that country club in NJ on that January night taking a vow to be faithful to me. He was.

No woman with half a brain would blame another woman for her llife partner's transgressions.
 
vesper said:
And where was this man's self control twice her age? Tucked into a pocket in his other trousers?
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Self control? Seriously? From what I have seen in my life......middle aged men and self control can be an iffy proposition.;)
 
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