Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

roguenuke said:

No. She started that one when she was 18 (I believe). I don't know if it started while she was still actually in high school or not (she went to some private school in Bel Air). That affair actually was still going on while she was doing what she was doing with the President (don't really know the logistics, just that it ended because the wife found out).

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Not that it matters in regard to what the POTUS did, but the timeline sounds like she's trying to cover.

Thanks for catching me up btw.

Top Cat said:

Well that and you don't have the 12 million.

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If I have had it, I would not take the offer for free.

clownboy said:

Hillary knew better. She was and still is a political animal. She knows/knew a President and First Lady's affairs are no longer private.

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I still find it amazing that anyone can suggest she should have handled the situation any differently. Walk a mile in her shoes.

MildSteel said:

If I have had it, I would not take the offer for free.

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Well there's a sucker born every minute. Pun intended.

Top Cat said:

Well there's a sucker born every minute. Pun intended.

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Well I have kids and I would not embarrass them like that for all the money in the world. And even if I didn't have them, I would not do it, even if no one knew about it.

Top Cat said:

I still find it amazing that anyone can suggest she should have handled the situation any differently. Walk a mile in her shoes.

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Well, since I believed she actually welcomed the distraction of news hitting the public and knew about the affairs already, that comment doesn't really land with me. However, there are so very few folks who have ever been the FLOTUS to have walked in her shoes.

Top Cat said:

I find it amazing that you feel you can judge what or how someone else should have handled the situation. WTF? She owes you nothing. That's her relationship with her husband.

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She was the First Lady of the United States. Her conduct is subject to scrutiny and judgment. As to finding it amazing? Save your amazement. That's what DP is all about.

MildSteel said:

No thanks. The idea just doesn't do anything for me.

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I've got a secret to tell you: No one gives a crap, except you, what you've done sexually.

Turning down 12m out of some sense of ethics or virginity is stupid. It's arrogant and, frankly, pathetic.

vesper said:

That's the way a lot of Clintonites think. Even Hillary blames Monica and herself for poor Billy Boy's misconduct. Do you find it rather odd that Hillary blames the women in poor Bill's life for is behavior?

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Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

ecofarm said:

I've got a secret to tell you: No one gives a crap, except you, what you've done sexually.

Turning down 12m out of some sense of ethics or virginity is stupid. It's arrogant and, frankly, pathetic.

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I'd say the same about your take on it here. Not everyone is willing to go roundheels for money as you appear to be.

clownboy said:

I'd say the same about your take on it here. Not everyone is willing to go roundheels for money as you appear to be.

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Oh, because you're SO SPECIAL! Get over yourself. 12m will set a family up for generations. To turn it down out of some sense of pride is pathetic.

ecofarm said:

Oh, because you're SO SPECIAL! Get over yourself. 12m will set a family up for generations. To turn it down out of some sense of pride is pathetic.

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No, I'm not special in that, that's the point. Your assumption that everyone else is willing to prostitute themselves is a false one. Perhaps you want to excuse your own failings with the "everybody would do it" thing, but it's not so.

clownboy said:

No, I'm not special in that, that's the point. Your assumption that everyone else is willing to prostitute themselves is a false one. Perhaps you want to excuse your own failings with the "everybody would do it" thing, but it's not so.

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If someone turns down 12m for whoring themselves once, that person is a bona fide moron.

People need to get over themselves and think of their families.

mac said:

Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

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Just a tad....

ecofarm said:

I've got a secret to tell you: No one gives a crap, except you, what you've done sexually.

Turning down 12m out of some sense of ethics or virginity is stupid. It's arrogant and, frankly, pathetic.

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You are serious. I think it's arrogance to assume that it doesn't matter what you do.

MildSteel said:

You are serious. I think it's arrogance to assume that it doesn't matter what you do.

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If I found out that a family member could have got 12m for one whore session, and did not, I'd disown them.

ecofarm said:

If I found out that a family member could have got 12m for one whore session, and did not, I'd disown them.

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What makes you so sure you own your body? Did you make your brain, your eyes, your nose, your mouth?

MildSteel said:

What makes you so sure you own your body? Did you make your brain, your eyes, your nose, your mouth?

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I give a **** who owns it (pun intended). If I can get 12m for it, and change the lives of my entire family for generations, I'm not gonna be a prideful moron and turn it down.

I'd let someone kill me for 12m. Sex? Hah! Easy.

ecofarm said:

I give a **** who owns it (pun intended). If I can get 12m for it, and change the lives of my entire family for generations, I'm not gonna be a prideful moron and turn it down.

I'd let someone kill me for 12m. Sex? Hah! Easy.

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Ok, fair enough. I'll leave it at that.

Lutherf said:

So after 20 years she decides to spill all the secrets? She chooses to do so two years before Hillary hits full blown campaign mode? That's convenient:roll:

If this isn't some kind of deal to dispose of Hillary baggage before the campaign I'll eat my hat.

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Poor innocent Bill. Politically assassinated by Hillary and her lesbo girlfriend Monica. (Hillary spit the cum on the dress)

MaggieD said:

I will never forgive him for denigrating the Presidency of the United States. Yeah, she acted the whore. He acted the whore as well. And his wifey? Also a whore. Possibly the biggest one of all because she actually got paid.

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I see lying us into war and allowing false intelligence to guide us to a place where thousands have died as a million times more denigrating. Allowing corporations to guide us through a war is more denigrating to the Presidency. Thinking that a woman working 3 jobs to barely afford to support her family and does not have healthcare because it is a luxury as a "uniquely American experience" is much more denigrating to the Presidency.

Sad fact some Men are dogs. Some women are dogs. More than anyone realizes or is willing to admit. But frankly - I want to avoid unnecessary wars, have jobs at a fair wage, access to decent healthcare, and a roof over my head. Two adults acting like jerks and thinking with their groins rather than their brains is really not going to change my prime concerns.

year2late said:

I see lying us into war and allowing false intelligence to guide us to a place where thousands have died as a million times more denigrating. Allowing corporations to guide us through a war is more denigrating to the Presidency. Thinking that a woman working 3 jobs to barely afford to support her family and does not have healthcare because it is a luxury as a "uniquely American experience" is much more denigrating to the Presidency.

Sad fact some Men are dogs. Some women are dogs. More than anyone realizes or is willing to admit. But frankly - I want to avoid unnecessary wars, have jobs at a fair wage, access to decent healthcare, and a roof over my head. Two adults acting like jerks and thinking with their groins rather than their brains is really not going to change my prime concerns.

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You know, that is the typical response. We aren't talking about George Bush. We are talking about Bill Clinton. But your only defense is to turn the tables and say, "George Bush was a thousand times worse."

I'm not going to argue that point. This thread is about Monica Lewinsky. And a President who disgraced his office, lied to Congress and was impeached.

MaggieD said:

You know, that is the typical response. We aren't talking about George Bush. We are talking about Bill Clinton. But your only defense is to turn the tables and say, "George Bush was a thousand times worse."

I'm not going to argue that point. This thread is about Monica Lewinsky. And a President who disgraced his office, lied to Congress and was impeached.

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It is about perspective. Bill and Monica did nothing to change my life - did nothing to make it better or worse. Personal failures denigrate the presidency on one level. Knowingly lying us into wars and assuring war profiteering is alive and well while the economy of a country is being tossed off a cliff is on a whole different level.
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Me having a momentary thought about Bill and Monica -"what jerks" has no bearing on the direction of the country as a whole.

If any President had a couple affairs in office - but improved the economy while assuring that he was working towards the health and well being of Americans - I guarantee I would consider it a family issue.

vesper said:

This month in Vanity Fair, Monica Lewinsky writes about her affair with President Clinton. Hard to believe she is now 40. How time flies when you are having fun. There are excerpts from the article posted online. She delves into the humiliation of it all and addresses at one time contemplating suicide. She was only 19 years of age when the affair began if I recall correctly but makes it very clear the relationship was consensual. My own opinion is that she paid a heavy price for her poor judgment. But at 19 and having a powerful man such as a president coming on to you, well let's just say I have always held Bill Clinton more responsible because of her age. Now Lewinsky says her current goal, “is to get involved with efforts on behalf of victims of online humiliation and harassment as she suffered and to start speaking on this topic in public forums.”

You can read more here.... Exclusive: Monica Lewinsky Writes About Her Affair with President Clinton | Vanity Fair

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I find it funny that she is bringing up all this again, while at the same time (just today) the Green Bay Packers drafted a player named "Ha Ha Clinton-Dix". :lol:

Porchev said:

I find it funny that she is bringing up all this again, while at the same time (just today) the Green Bay Packers drafted a player named "Ha Ha Clinton-Dix". :lol:

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Morning Porchev, As more things come out about the article that went digital yesterday, what she addresses isn't so much rehashing the past but setting the record straight from current news being reported about her. The comments that Hillary made to her friend Blair that recently got published where Hillary is said to have called Monica a narcissistic loony tune and where Hillary blames herself as well as Monica for Bill Clinton's affair, Monica comes back with how she finds it "troubling" that Hillary Clinton blames the women in Bill's life and not Bill.

In the news lately there have also been some politicians bringing up Lewinsky's name over the Democrats and their "War on Women" mantra using her as an example of how a Democrat president abused his power taking advantage of a young intern. Lewinsky responds stating she was taken advantage of but it was a consensual affair.

The other person she addresses is the singer Beyoncé and her song "Partition" where the lyrics include, "He popped all my buttons, and he ripped my blouse/He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown" -- is factually incorrect, according to Lewinsky. “Thanks, Beyoncé, but if we’re verbing, I think you meant ‘Bill Clinton’d all on my gown,’ not ‘Monica Lewinsky’d,'"


There have been multiple conspiracy theories of why Lewinsky wrote the article. Personally, I think she is tired of powerful people misrepresenting what actually happened whether they be in politics or in pop culture making her the scapegoat. She made it very clear that no longer would she walk on eggshells or tip toe around someone else's political aspirations (Hillary). It's obvious, 17 years of this crap, 10 which she has been silent, is enough.