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Μολὼν λαβέ;1063244043 said:It's called perjury.
And it's a felony.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063244043 said:It's called perjury.
She made $1M within the year after the affair became public when someone wrote a biography about her called "Monica's Story". She made another 1/2M+ for doing an interview with Barbara Walters that year. I'd say that is more than she ever would have made in 1999 had she not had that affair with Clinton or had it not become public.
In fact, my estimates were way off with how much she would have made in 20 years (and really its only been 15) with a Masters in Psychology if we base it off of starting pay with generous raises from there and working in the best paying careers for psychologists. She would have made at most $1.5M in that 20 years. Yet she made that in the first year after the affair became public, and has made more since then.
He could have made it right with the book, but he hasn't. He is a revisionist of history. He has lied. [...] I really didn't expect him to go into detail about our relationship. [...] But if he had and he'd done it honestly, I wouldn't have minded. [...] I did, though, at least expect him to correct the false statements he made when he was trying to protect the Presidency. Instead, he talked about it as though I had laid it all out there for the taking. I was the buffet and he just couldn't resist the dessert. [...] This was a mutual relationship, mutual on all levels, right from the way it started and all the way through. [...] I don't accept that he had to completely desecrate my character.
You mean keep quiet like lie to the special prosecutor like Billy Boy wanted her to do but didn't?Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?
I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.
On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?
I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.
On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
Yeah, lots of liberals are just jerks.
You mean keep quiet like lie to the special prosecutor like Billy Boy wanted her to do but didn't?
Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?
I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.
On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
Honey, I've given blow jobs at work to people I probably shouldn't have done. OK not presidents, nowehere near, but people who could have got into trouble if I so wished it. I made adult choices to have consensual sex at work and I just NEVER told ANYBODY as that seemed the sensible thing to do. Do you really think Clinton's the ONLY person in the White House to have EVER gotten a piece?
This didn't have to get to the special prosecutor. She could have had that dress dry cleaned.
Believe me I am usually the first to defend the woman, and while I do believe Clinton abused his position of power, I don't believe Lewinsky's squeaky clean in all this either. You make your bed, you lie in it........so to speak.
like all the other times women have been told to suck it up and shut up"
As opposed to those sainted conservatives who are always paragons of civility and decency.
Nobody's saying what Bill did was right, but this unwillingness to hold Monica Lewinsky at all responsible for any of her actions is ridiculous. She was an adult.
Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?
I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.
On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
*sigh* Even this breaks down along partisan lines. We're really screwed as a species, aren't we?
Honey, I've given blow jobs at work to people I probably shouldn't have done. OK not presidents, nowehere near, but people who could have got into trouble if I so wished it. I made adult choices to have consensual sex at work and I just NEVER told ANYBODY as that seemed the sensible thing to do. Do you really think Clinton's the ONLY person in the White House to have EVER gotten a piece?
This didn't have to get to the special prosecutor. She could have had that dress dry cleaned.
Believe me I am usually the first to defend the woman, and while I do believe Clinton abused his position of power, I don't believe Lewinsky's squeaky clean in all this either. You make your bed, you lie in it........so to speak.
This month in Vanity Fair, Monica Lewinsky writes about her affair with President Clinton. Hard to believe she is now 40. How time flies when you are having fun. There are excerpts from the article posted online. She delves into the humiliation of it all and addresses at one time contemplating suicide. She was only 19 years of age when the affair began if I recall correctly but makes it very clear the relationship was consensual. My own opinion is that she paid a heavy price for her poor judgment. But at 19 and having a powerful man such as a president coming on to you, well let's just say I have always held Bill Clinton more responsible because of her age. Now Lewinsky says her current goal, “is to get involved with efforts on behalf of victims of online humiliation and harassment as she suffered and to start speaking on this topic in public forums.”
You can read more here.... Exclusive: Monica Lewinsky Writes About Her Affair with President Clinton | Vanity Fair
Monica has nothing to do with Hillary, now Bill was a different story. But even with Bill the majority of Americans were on his side and not the Republicans during his impeachment. Those who care about Monica aren't about to vote for Hillary come hell or high water. The rest just don't give a hoot. That was a good 15 years or more ago. The bottom line is Monica was Bill's problem, not Hillary's. She will have no effect at all on 2016 except to give those who would never vote for her another reason not to vote for her.
O/T = your forum handle makes me laugh every time I see it.
In retrospect, I wish Bill Clinton would have just admitted to the affair, and then he would not have been impeached for perjury. [Although, I will admit, that back then I was happy to see him in trouble.]
I do too Chris. I can't even imagine having to live through that humiliation at the age of 22 and for 17 years that followed. To be made a laughing stock of the butt end of jokes that now a blow job is called a Lewinsky. For crying outloud Clinton was old enough to be her father. And as an intern that is the role any parent would hope a mentor would become. But that didn't stop those in power making her out to be some loony tune and still do.
I think having both an abortion and blowing the president all in one year qualifies one for being a loony tune.
Key point. If she didn't want what followed she should have kept her trap shut.Monica confided in her about her encounters with the president..
She was still a grown adult. Honey we've all done stupid things for love. When you're over 18 you take the rap for your own actions. At 19, really you KNOW the US president ain't gonna give it all up for you.Monica was "in love" with Bill Clinton and I state "in love" as an infatuated school girl..
Get YOURS straight sweetpea. Find me the post where I said she should have lied to the prosecutor as you keep repeating like a stuck 45. I said it never needed to have gone that far in the first place.So get your facts straight.
If he had admitted the affair it would have merely been a short term embarrassment rather then a scandal. His crime came when he obstructed justice in an attempt to cover it up. Same with Nixon. The Watergate burglary by itself would not have led to successful impeachment hearings. However hisa attempts to obstruct justice did. At least he had the honor to resign and avoid putting his family and the nation through the impeachment process.
WTF????? Seriously? A very young woman who obviously had a need to talk to a more mature woman was not someone equipped to handle such a relationship. I don't know of any 22 year old woman who would!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG the president of the U.S. the most powerful man in the world calling you up to set up the next scheduled time where they could perform fellatio on one another this 22 year old is suppose to keep her mouth shut? You know it is people with your kind of attitude that keep women from coming out and speaking up or confiding in others when something isn't quite right or they are being abused and are too stupid to know it. Linda Tripp saw the abuse and ratted the SOB out for it.Key point. If she didn't want what followed she should have kept her trap shut.She was still a grown adult. Honey we've all done stupid things for love. When you're over 18 you take the rap for your own actions. At 19, really you KNOW the US president ain't gonna give it all up for you. Get YOURS straight sweetpea. Find me the post where I said she should have lied to the prosecutor as you keep repeating like a stuck 45. I said it never needed to have gone that far in the first place.