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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, you should, Top Cat, when it's the President of the United States using his power and station to inflict real harm on a 19-year-old girl. It's an unfair, lopsided relationship of the scummiest kind. He couldn't even choose an equal. So wrong.
    "Real Harm" It was a consensual blowjob. She even said so herself.

    I'm not defending Bills actions here, but the way you are speaking its as if he raped her.

    The real harm was done when the Republicans tried to exploit her and the situation for political gain. Along with the media, they were the ones who caused the real harm.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    And yet, that was 20 years ago and as a nation we prospered under Bill Clinton.

    20 years ago. You are making like her husbands infidelities 20 years ago have bearing on current politics.

    Seriously.
    The US Prospered because he worked with a Congress (Contract With America) that kept his sending under control. Recall how he appointed his wife, nepotism at its worst, to start up a health care system?

    Clinton health care plan of 1993 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It was also Hillary who claimed his alleged infidelities were a result "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy", perhaps the first, the mother, of all the succeeding political 'conspiracy theories'.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    "Real Harm" It was a consensual blowjob. She even said so herself.

    I'm not defending Bills actions here, but the way you are speaking its as if he raped her.

    The real harm was done when the Republicans tried to exploit her and the situation for political gain. Along with the media, they were the ones who caused the real harm.
    Clinton committed perjury, which was the source of his problems, not sex. And it was the Democrats and their media who went after Monica and Linda Tripp, not the Republicans. All these facts should be well known.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The US Prospered because he worked with a Congress (Contract With America) that kept his sending under control. Recall how he appointed his wife, nepotism at its worst, to start up a health care system?

    Clinton health care plan of 1993 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It was also Hillary who claimed his alleged infidelities were a result "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy", perhaps the first, the mother, of all the succeeding political 'conspiracy theories'.
    Hmmmm....a country prospering because congress worked with the President and the President worked with Congress.

    Novel idea!!!!!

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Hmmmm....a country prospering because congress worked with the President and the President worked with Congress.

    Novel idea!!!!!
    It would be great if Obama was more like Clinton in that regard. Reagan and O'Neill worked famously together as well. Obama wants to move forward with agendas the majority of people don't want.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Clinton committed perjury, which was the source of his problems, not sex. And it was the Democrats and their media who went after Monica and Linda Tripp, not the Republicans. All these facts should be well known.
    What you are saying is that the Republicans never used Monica as a tool to bring down Bill? And I say bull**** to that.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    What you are saying is that the Republicans never used Monica as a tool to bring down Bill? And I say bull**** to that.
    As much as I respected the job Clinton did as President, the Republicans didn't force him to lie under oath, and whether they "used" her or not doesn't change that.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It would be great if Obama was more like Clinton in that regard. Reagan and O'Neill worked famously together as well. Obama wants to move forward with agendas the majority of people don't want.
    You seriously think the problem is lopsided AGAINST Obama???

    Where Obama has gotten in trouble with the left is that he has given away too much.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    "Real Harm" It was a consensual blowjob. She even said so herself.

    I'm not defending Bills actions here, but the way you are speaking its as if he raped her.

    The real harm was done when the Republicans tried to exploit her and the situation for political gain. Along with the media, they were the ones who caused the real harm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Clinton committed perjury, which was the source of his problems, not sex. And it was the Democrats and their media who went after Monica and Linda Tripp, not the Republicans. All these facts should be well known.
    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    What you are saying is that the Republicans never used Monica as a tool to bring down Bill? And I say bull**** to that.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    As much as I respected the job Clinton did as President, the Republicans didn't force him to lie under oath, and whether they "used" her or not doesn't change that.
    He only was able to perjure himself because the Republicans took Monica and turned her into a tool for political gain. Sure, what got him in the most trouble was perjuring himself, but the intent all along was to bring Clinton down, and assure that the next president was a republican. They did this using Monica as a tool, and MaggieD's original post that I was commenting on was trying to label her as the victim of Bill, which I was arguing she was more a victim of the Republicans and the Media.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    He only was able to perjure himself because the Republicans took Monica and turned her into a tool for political gain. Sure, what got him in the most trouble was perjuring himself, but the intent all along was to bring Clinton down, and assure that the next president was a republican. They did this using Monica as a tool, and MaggieD's original post that I was commenting on was trying to label her as the victim of Bill, which I was arguing she was more a victim of the Republicans and the Media.
    He was able to perjure himself because he was able to utter words that weren't true. Nobody forced him to do that.

    It doesn't have anything to do with Monica.

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