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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh come on! Bill Clinton was a philanderer quite obviously. Are you denying this? Or maybe Hilary just believes him?

    And these are the ones we KNOW about.
    It seems like it is completely possible that she simply didn't care if he had sex with other women, especially if she really wasn't one for sex herself (or if they simply were a power couple). And that would be their business.

    People need to remember that despite being only about 20 years ago, most people would not be comfortable with couples, particularly powerful political couples openly agreeing that their spouse could have sex with someone outside of their marriage, but it happened more often than we would also like to admit (I was in my later teens when this started coming out, and I remember saying even back then that Hillary likely didn't care two bits if Bill slept with other women, provided it was actually consensual). Heck, even now, many people would not be comfortable to find out that a power political couple had/has an agreement that allows for sex outside the marriage, eventhough it's their marriage, their agreements to each other.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It seems like it is completely possible that she simply didn't care if he had sex with other women, especially if she really wasn't one for sex herself (or if they simply were a power couple). And that would be their business.

    People need to remember that despite being only about 20 years ago, most people would not be comfortable with couples, particularly powerful political couples openly agreeing that their spouse could have sex with someone outside of their marriage, but it happened more often than we would also like to admit (I was in my later teens when this started coming out, and I remember saying even back then that Hillary likely didn't care two bits if Bill slept with other women, provided it was actually consensual). Heck, even now, many people would not be comfortable to find out that a power political couple had/has an agreement that allows for sex outside the marriage, eventhough it's their marriage, their agreements to each other.
    Well then that would be even less of a reason to denigrate Ms. Lewinsky for some bad judgments she may have made as a 21 or 22-year-old young naive woman who was being wooed by the most powerful man in the world at the time.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh come on! Bill Clinton was a philanderer quite obviously. Are you denying this? Or maybe Hilary just believes him?

    And these are the ones we KNOW about.
    I wouldn't doubt if Hillary cheated on him too. Usually career women don't put up with a philandering husband. They either leave him or get even. And I do recall that there was rumors that she had an affair with Vince Foster.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    I wouldn't doubt if Hillary cheated on him too. Usually career women don't put up with a philandering husband. They either leave him or get even. And I do recall that there was rumors that she had an affair with Vince Foster.
    Well, if that were the case (which I somehow doubt), I would think when she was running for president, all kinds of allegations would have been brought up, but who knows, maybe she's just better at keeping secrets.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh come on! Bill Clinton was a philanderer quite obviously. Are you denying this? Or maybe Hilary just believes him?

    And these are the ones we KNOW about.
    That was a good list for starters. Another name that comes to mind is Susan McDougal, the Arkansas woman who spent 18 months in jail for refusing to answer questions from special prosecutor Ken Starr, and then received a presidential pardon from Clinton. It is amazing to read the comments from the women who lean left coming to Hillary's defense making excuses for her while demanding Lewinsky be tarred and feathered for her part. Seriously what feminist would put up with Bill's affairs? A hypocritical one?

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well then that would be even less of a reason to denigrate Ms. Lewinsky for some bad judgments she may have made as a 21 or 22-year-old young naive woman who was being wooed by the most powerful man in the world at the time.
    Who knows why she didn't like Lewinski? Do we know if she said the same thing about all the other women that Bill slept with or something similar? When was the comment made? Perhaps more went on between the Clintons and Lewinsky that we don't know about. In fact, it is kind of a strange "insult" to make about a husband's mistress to begin with. Most people would call the other woman a "homewrecker" or "jezebel" or "tramp" or something along those lines, instead Hillary called her a "narcissistic loony toon". This suggests that there was something besides the affair itself that made Hillary dislike Monica.

    Lewinsky was not a naive young woman simply wooed by a powerful man. She told people prior to going to DC that she wanted to have sex with the President, and even mentioned that she wouldn't mind other White House figures as well, including the VP and Stephanopoulos ("Oh, him, the little guy? Oh, I love him!"). That isn't naive. That is a girl with stars or dollar signs in her head (or both) to begin with. Young women can enjoy sex too, and they can even have future aspirations to write, say tell all novels about their time "in the White House". I'm more than willing to bet that was the most likely reason for much of her behavior during the affair, including trying to convince Tripp not to talk to Starr and keeping the dress.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    No one deserves to feel like they can't stand continuing to live because of a blowjob, regardless of circumstances. People talk about that being a "scandal" or something (google 'monica lewinsky' and it expands to include 'scandal'), no, all it was was a blowjob followed by a lie to a question that was no one's business to ask in the first place (except Hillary's). This is done on a daily basis all over the country.
    Wow, only got a few posts in before the robotic, erroneous, leftist defense of Clinton. Nah, no scandal here. It's okay to lie under oath about this subject if you are a democrat. Also if you are an abuser of women, a pervert, and all around disgusting human being that any responsible person wouldn't want left in a room along with a female loved one.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    That was a good list for starters. Another name that comes to mind is Susan McDougal, the Arkansas woman who spent 18 months in jail for refusing to answer questions from special prosecutor Ken Starr, and then received a presidential pardon from Clinton. It is amazing to read the comments from the women who lean left coming to Hillary's defense making excuses for her while demanding Lewinsky be tarred and feathered for her part. Seriously what feminist would put up with Bill's affairs? A hypocritical one?
    It's just disgusting that some people would lie the blame at HER feet, while giving him a pass. IMO, he was WAY more wrong in this situation than Monica. He was the POTUS. He made oaths, not only to his wife but to his country. I don't really hate him for this. I actually really don't care if he cheats on his wife or with whom, it's just the principal that some feel so comfortable with being cruel to this woman who was really not much more than a girl, and her life (according to her story) has been pretty much ruined. I can't imagine having to have people recognize me everywhere I went for something stupid I did as a young adult and never ever be able to live it down. That's why I have empathy for her. She says she cannot even find a job.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Who knows why she didn't like Lewinski? Do we know if she said the same thing about all the other women that Bill slept with or something similar? When was the comment made? Perhaps more went on between the Clintons and Lewinsky that we don't know about. In fact, it is kind of a strange "insult" to make about a husband's mistress to begin with. Most people would call the other woman a "homewrecker" or "jezebel" or "tramp" or something along those lines, instead Hillary called her a "narcissistic loony toon". This suggests that there was something besides the affair itself that made Hillary dislike Monica.

    Lewinsky was not a naive young woman simply wooed by a powerful man. She told people prior to going to DC that she wanted to have sex with the President, and even mentioned that she wouldn't mind other White House figures as well, including the VP and Stephanopoulos ("Oh, him, the little guy? Oh, I love him!"). That isn't naive. That is a girl with stars or dollar signs in her head (or both) to begin with. Young women can enjoy sex too, and they can even have future aspirations to write, say tell all novels about their time "in the White House". I'm more than willing to bet that was the most likely reason for much of her behavior during the affair, including trying to convince Tripp not to talk to Starr and keeping the dress.
    Good Lord, just those statements ALONE show that she was a naive young woman and she WAS at the age of 22 years old. Not much more than a child really. Sorry, he is way more to blame than she is.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's just disgusting that some people would lie the blame at HER feet, while giving him a pass. IMO, he was WAY more wrong in this situation than Monica. He was the POTUS. He made oaths, not only to his wife but to his country. I don't really hate him for this. I actually really don't care if he cheats on his wife or with whom, it's just the principal that some feel so comfortable with being cruel to this woman who was really not much more than a girl, and her life (according to her story) has been pretty much ruined. I can't imagine having to have people recognize me everywhere I went for something stupid I did as a young adult and never ever be able to live it down. That's why I have empathy for her. She says she cannot even find a job.
    I second that and hope she publishes a book not leaving out one salacious detail and makes mega millions on it. If she did it right she could balance it with documents and testimony given from the trial of the other women over their encounters with Clinton. I don't think most people realize just how close he came to being indicted.

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