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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    No not an active choice....but at that age it clearly shows one that is compensating for the lack of a relationship with a father. And that is the case with Monica. Both her affairs were with men much older than her. Both were men in authority over her. Both men she was infatuated with.

    These are all things a young girl sees in her dad. Denied that and she goes looking for it in other forms for acceptance. They are prime candidates for men especially older men, to use and abuse.
    Good Lord. It isn't her fault that she was a mistress to TWO married men because of daddy issues? Seriously?

    Sure, we are a product of our upbringing. But what you are saying is that she had it so bad she was ripe for the picking and lacked the ability to say "hay sleeping with a married man is wrong, very wrong".

    I am not sure why anyone would make excuses for her behavior. I just have one question. Did she realize that sleeping with a married man was wrong?

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Good Lord. It isn't her fault that she was a mistress to TWO married men because of daddy issues? Seriously?

    Sure, we are a product of our upbringing. But what you are saying is that she had it so bad she was ripe for the picking and lacked the ability to say "hay sleeping with a married man is wrong, very wrong".

    I am not sure why anyone would make excuses for her behavior. I just have one question. Did she realize that sleeping with a married man was wrong?
    Did the married men much older than her that she slept with realize what they were doing was wrong? She was all of 18 the first time still in high school and 22 the second.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Did the married men much older than her that she slept with realize what they were doing was wrong? She was all of 18 the first time and 22 the second.
    First of all the first married man was only 10 years her senior. Not that much. And I give a huge "yes" to their complete understanding that sleeping with women outside of their marriages was DEAD WRONG.

    Why does that matter? Does that make any difference. He realized it was wrong, so it makes it OK for her???

    Can't BOTH of them be responsible for their own behavior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    First of all the first married man was only 10 years her senior. Not that much. And I give a huge "yes" to their complete understanding that sleeping with women outside of their marriages was DEAD WRONG.

    Why does that matter? Does that make any difference. He realized it was wrong, so it makes it OK for her???

    Can't BOTH of them be responsible for their own behavior?
    I believe Monica is the only one that took responsibility when she refused to lie about it to the special prosecutor as Clinton wanted her to. She took responsibility from the beginning when she said the relationship was consensual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I believe Monica is the only one that took responsibility when she refused to lie about it to the special prosecutor as Clinton wanted her to. She took responsibility from the beginning when she said the relationship was consensual.
    So accepting responsibility publically makes it all go away?

    She had two affairs with married men. She knew better and did it anyway. You just cannot take that away.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Why were purely religious laws on the books to be used by the right for purely political purposes?

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    So accepting responsibility publically makes it all go away?

    She had two affairs with married men. She knew better and did it anyway. You just cannot take that away.
    Who is trying to take it away? Are you so perfect that you can judge her and justify the relentless humiliation she has encountered over her wrongdoing? Seventeen years of this crap she has put up with and the last 10 years has been silent on the matter. Today still being called a loony tune by the Clinton apologists who have yet to take personal responsibility for destroying any woman who succumbed to Clinton's advances.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Do you understand the definition of net-worth? It is the total assets minus total outside liabilities of an individual or a company. According to what has been reported on the Internet her net-worth is $500k so unless you have proof otherwise what you want to believe isn't fact. Your snark about her biggest achievement being that she slept with the president is telling. The woman at one time started her own business designing handbags up until Clinton published his autobiography. She gave up the business which was making money when she left for London due to the eruption of humiliation his book caused her. She worked as a newscaster while in London and earned her masters. Monica has several noteworthy accomplishments.


    It's obvious Monica as a teen and young woman had insecurity issues. But to continue today with the bashing of calling her a loony tune 17 years later is disgusting. But that is what the Clinton click are still doing. Is there a proper term used in psychology to address those who suffer with the condition of heartlessness? A person that would allow another person's life to be destroyed, her character decimated in order to make him or herself not look so guilty? I hope she makes major bucks off of this article goes on every damn talk show and tells her side of the story and in the process help others who have been bullied, humiliated relentlessly over past mistakes.
    Her net worth as of last year. As I said, that would be a net-worth that a whole lot of people, especially those within her given profession (at least the one her degree suggests she would have been in) would love to have. That is owning at least a house and a car plus having savings and possibly (most likely) investments.

    She started a business based off of her notoriety. And it eventually she gave it up.

    How often exactly have the Clintons actually brought up her or the affair? I'm willing to bet not often, if at all. In fact, I'm willing to bet that this will simply cause her more "grief" than it could ever alleviate her from. She is spinning this even now, as are others. For example, the "narcissistic loony toon" comment was made pretty much during the actual affair/incident to a friend of Hillary's. It isn't like it happened in this last 10 years. It simply came out during the last year.

    So what if she was "silent"? Shouldn't she have simply stayed that way if she truly wanted everyone out of her life? I doubt people were really interested in that much more from her. You keep acting as though the Clintons are purposely bringing up the affair (that frankly hurts them much more than it does her) over and over again. They aren't. Had the affair never happened, then they would be much better off than she would be. However, had the affair remained unknown about by Starr, then it is more than likely that she would have eventually told more people about it anyway. Afterall, she told Tripp about the affair and others that she wanted to sleep with the President prior to even starting her internship.

    Washingtonpost.com Special Report: Clinton Accused

    What exactly is the whole point of bringing this up now, of writing this "essay"? What exactly does it do? It won't make the press less likely to question her or even the Clintons about the affair (in fact, it is easily argued that it would make it more likely). It won't change the fact that some will view her as a victim, others a homewrecker (or at least an attempted one), some will see her as a naive idiot, still others will view her as a "narcissistic loony toon", and then even more will just see her as a woman who had sex with the President.

    Prove her life was "destroyed". Show that she would have a higher net worth without having had her affair with Clinton. Prove that she absolutely has nothing she can do now. She isn't exactly destitute. Would she even be known to anyone had she not chosen to have an affair with the President?

    Now 40, Monica Lewinsky Guards Her Privacy - TIME

    I'm not saying its right that people judge her or consider her worth based on that one affair. However, I also don't feel that she is truly upset or worse off than she would have been had she not had that affair.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Who is trying to take it away? Are you so perfect that you can judge her and justify the relentless humiliation she has encountered over her wrongdoing? Seventeen years of this crap she has put up with and the last 10 years has been silent on the matter. Today still being called a loony tune by the Clinton apologists who have yet to take personal responsibility for destroying any woman who succumbed to Clinton's advances.
    First of all...until this came out, I had not even heard about her for years.

    Second of all, she had affairs with MARRIED MEN...they wounds were self inflicted.

    And frankly, she was no idiot. She was screwing around with the POTUS! What did she think would happen.

    I refuse to be bothered by self inflicted wounds. Sad fact, many self inflicted wounds occur in early adulthood. You carry them with you, they cannot go away. But frankly = IMHO - putting this all out there when really and truly very people gave a **** anymore...just dragged to the surface what millions had long since forgot!

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

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    Age is not relevant when they are both adults. I've had sex with guys way older than me - .
    Damn...would you mind elaborating?

    I'm all ears.

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