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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No, he resigned because he knew fighting the impeachment was futile, the votes were there. Nixon's resignation was not an act of honor, it was an act of ... well, of resignation. He knew he was cooked.
    Nixon very likely would have been impeached just as Slick Willy was. Impeachment was not that much in question, either with Nixon or Slick Willy. Even republicans told Nixon he would not have the votes in the house of reps to avoid impeachment. Getting convictesd and thrown out of office when it goes to the Senate is another matter. He very possibly could have survived that. Afterall Slick Willy did. They were both charged with lying and obstructing justice while attempting to cover up a scandal. As for Nixon's reasons for resigning and avoiding the impeachment process, you do not get to speak for him His crime as bad as it was ....it was no more serious then Clinton's crime. In my opinion they both should have been thrown out of office.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Nixon very likely would have been impeached just as Slick Willy was. Impeachment was not that much in question, either with Nixon or Slick Willy. Even republicans told Nixon he would not have the votes in the house of reps to avoid impeachment. Getting convictesd and thrown out of office when it goes to the Senate is another matter. He very possibly could have survived that. Afterall Slick Willy did. They were both charged with lying and obstructing justice while attempting to cover up a scandal. As for Nixon's reasons for resigning and avoiding the impeachment process, you do not get to speak for him His crime as bad as it was ....it was no more serious then Clinton's crime. In my opinion they both should have been thrown out of office.
    My point is that Nixon wasn't going to survive conviction. The Articles of Impeachment passing were a lead-pipe cinch, and the Senate votes were there to toss his ass out.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

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    WTF????? Seriously? A very young woman who obviously had a need to talk to a more mature woman was not someone equipped to handle such a relationship. I don't know of any 22 year old woman who would!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG the president of the U.S. the most powerful man in the world calling you up to set up the next scheduled time where they could perform fellatio on one another this 22 year old is suppose to keep her mouth shut? You know it is people with your kind of attitude that keep women from coming out and speaking up or confiding in others when something isn't quite right or they are being abused and are too stupid to know it. Linda Tripp saw the abuse and ratted the SOB out for it.
    Was Monica Lewinsky a consulting adult or not? Do you have proof that Clinton stuck his Johnson in her mouth and said "suck that or else"? I am the first girl on ther block to encourage women to speak out when they've been abused, co-erced, groped, raped etc. All of that is vile, inexcusable behaviour on the part of the perpertrators. Should Polanski stand trial for having sex with an underage girl? Sure he should - she was underage. Honey I grew up in Britain and there's $hit flying around there about 70s stars like Jimmy Savile, and a whole load of other famous men who seemingly used their celebrity to abuse women, and men, and somtimes underage age girls and boys. Of course I think those guys did wrong and were absuers because their victims either didn't give consent and/or were underage. But Lewinsky doesn't fall into that category just because she was "in love" like that excuses everything. She was a CONSENTING ADULT. A bit thick, but a CONSENTING ADULT. Doh!
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    My point is that Nixon wasn't going to survive conviction. The Articles of Impeachment passing were a lead-pipe cinch, and the Senate votes were there to toss his ass out.
    The Articles of Impeachment passing were a lead-pipe cinch pipe in both cases. Conviction in the Senate is not so easy. I have read many articles over the years, many suggesting he would not have survived the process in the Senate, many suggesting he would have survived. We will never know.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    It's true that Monica will have no effect on the 2016 race. Benghazi will be the 900 lb gorilla on Hillary's back if she runs. Obamacare will also drag her down. She will campaign on fixing is, however it will remind everyone about "Hillarycare".....which she attempted to shove down our throats even without holding public office.
    you know I forgot all about Hillary Care. But I wonder if something that old, that failed to get pass congress is something that will hang around her neck. Now the ACA, that is different. There are two other possibilities for the ACA, 1. over the next two years in may actually start to work the way the Democrats said it would and turn from a minus to a plus or 2. When all the delayed mandates, fees, regulation put off until after the November election kick in, more people than now might become up in arms and 2016 could become another 2010. In which case it doesn't matter who the Democrats nominate.

    But I think neither 1 or 2 will become a reality although possible. I think the ACA will creep along pretty much as is and the electoral college advantage the Democrats have today will probably hold for 2016. But who knows? Another issue or even could take the front page and the ACA might become meaningless. Strange thing happen.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    Was Monica Lewinsky a consulting adult or not? Do you have proof that Clinton stuck his Johnson in her mouth and said "suck that or else"? I am the first girl on ther block to encourage women to speak out when they've been abused, co-erced, groped, raped etc. All of that is vile, inexcusable behaviour on the part of the perpertrators. Should Polanski stand trial for having sex with an underage girl? Sure he should - she was underage. Honey I grew up in Britain and there's $hit flying around there about 70s stars like Jimmy Savile, and a whole load of other famous men who seemingly used their celebrity to abuse women, and men, and somtimes underage age girls and boys. Of course I think those guys did wrong and were absuers because their victims either didn't give consent and/or were underage. But Lewinsky doesn't fall into that category just because she was "in love" like that excuses everything. She was a CONSENTING ADULT. A bit thick, but a CONSENTING ADULT. Doh!
    And she has made that very clear early on it was a consensual relationship. She has never run from that. But those who see the most powerful man in the world old enough to be her father encouraging such a relationship with an infatuated young women to be abusive. But in 2004 the dickhead in his autobiography went on to blame her for the relationship decimating any character she may have had left. That is one piece of ****. I believe in personal responsibility for our actions. Monica has paid dearly for 17 years for her part. But that piece of **** gets impeached for lying to the special prosecutor but never ever had to face judgment day on his actual behavior and the decimation of character of every female he has had an inappropriate relationship which are so many. I wish Monica best of everything with her new endeavor to speak publically on the issue of not allowing the powerful to decimate one's character, those with power over us able to bully us into remission and revise history to suit them. She is a strong woman. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Because what she has been put through in the media via the attack dogs that are faithful servants to the Clintons would have made most women either lose their minds or commit suicide as she admits she once contemplated.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    If he had admitted the affair it would have merely been a short term embarrassment rather then a scandal. His crime came when he obstructed justice in an attempt to cover it up. Same with Nixon. The Watergate burglary by itself would not have led to successful impeachment hearings. However hisa attempts to obstruct justice did. At least he had the honor to resign and avoid putting his family and the nation through the impeachment process.
    Yes, his crimes came when he obstructed justice and it led to his impeachment. He wasted a lot of the country's time and money with that fiasco, when he should have just manned up and admitted to everything and the government could focus on other things.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    you know I forgot all about Hillary Care. But I wonder if something that old, that failed to get pass congress is something that will hang around her neck. Now the ACA, that is different. There are two other possibilities for the ACA, 1. over the next two years in may actually start to work the way the Democrats said it would and turn from a minus to a plus or 2. When all the delayed mandates, fees, regulation put off until after the November election kick in, more people than now might become up in arms and 2016 could become another 2010. In which case it doesn't matter who the Democrats nominate.

    But I think neither 1 or 2 will become a reality although possible. I think the ACA will creep along pretty much as is and the electoral college advantage the Democrats have today will probably hold for 2016. But who knows? Another issue or even could take the front page and the ACA might become meaningless. Strange thing happen.
    Ultimately Obamacare will become meaningless. Obama has already demonstrated how it will happen. Obama has changed the ACA at least 36 times with executive orders. The next republican president will simply destroy it in the same manner.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Ultimately Obamacare will become meaningless. Obama has already demonstrated how it will happen. Obama has changed the ACA at least 36 times with executive orders. The next republican president will simply destroy it in the same manner.
    Possible I think. That is if a Republican wins in 2016. If not, Obamacare is here to stay.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Thread's not about Obama or Obamacare.
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