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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yeah, lots of liberals are just jerks.
    As opposed to those sainted conservatives who are always paragons of civility and decency.

    Nobody's saying what Bill did was right, but this unwillingness to hold Monica Lewinsky at all responsible for any of her actions is ridiculous. She was an adult.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    You mean keep quiet like lie to the special prosecutor like Billy Boy wanted her to do but didn't?

    Honey, I've given blow jobs at work to people I probably shouldn't have done. OK not presidents, nowehere near, but people who could have got into trouble if I so wished it. I made adult choices to have consensual sex at work and I just NEVER told ANYBODY as that seemed the sensible thing to do. Do you really think Clinton's the ONLY person in the White House to have EVER gotten a piece?

    This didn't have to get to the special prosecutor. She could have had that dress dry cleaned.

    Believe me I am usually the first to defend the woman, and while I do believe Clinton abused his position of power, I don't believe Lewinsky's squeaky clean in all this either. You make your bed, you lie in it........so to speak.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?

    I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.

    On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
    yeah keep quiet about it....like all the other times women have been told to suck it up and shut up. Keep quiet about it or we'll shame you publicly like Hilary did and the way society has been protecting rich and powerful men for centuries.

    Again, at 47 and a father of a girl not much younger, responsible for the fate of the free world, the role of the adult was all his, all his. If she as coming on, the right ting to do was say "no" like decent fathers and husbands have been doing for centuries. It the sick bastard couldn't control his base impulses any better than that, do you really want him facing down nuclear war...."be...right....there....ugh...hurry up."
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    Honey, I've given blow jobs at work to people I probably shouldn't have done. OK not presidents, nowehere near, but people who could have got into trouble if I so wished it. I made adult choices to have consensual sex at work and I just NEVER told ANYBODY as that seemed the sensible thing to do. Do you really think Clinton's the ONLY person in the White House to have EVER gotten a piece?

    This didn't have to get to the special prosecutor. She could have had that dress dry cleaned.

    Believe me I am usually the first to defend the woman, and while I do believe Clinton abused his position of power, I don't believe Lewinsky's squeaky clean in all this either. You make your bed, you lie in it........so to speak.
    Precisely this.

    I would also like to comment on the irony of so many conservatives, the people who preach "personal responsibility," completely absolving Monica Lewinsky of any and all culpability for what happened.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    like all the other times women have been told to suck it up and shut up"

    NO NO NO.

    A guy tells you to suck it and you tell him to f*** off. A guy makes you and you tell all including the police.
    A guy offers and you say "Mmm, yes please" then you do what you please with it and you don't talk afterwards.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    As opposed to those sainted conservatives who are always paragons of civility and decency.

    Nobody's saying what Bill did was right, but this unwillingness to hold Monica Lewinsky at all responsible for any of her actions is ridiculous. She was an adult.
    It's the inconsistency that pisses me off. You think any one of them would hesitate to scream about "personal responsibility" if it was some inner city kid that had broken their code of conduct in some way? Any way?
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    *sigh* Even this breaks down along partisan lines. We're really screwed as a species, aren't we?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?

    I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.

    On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
    Regarding the extramarital affair, Lewinsky was not a victim. Victim status came afterward when the democrat party hacks circled the wagons to protect Slick Willy and treated her in much the same manner that they treated all of the other women that became embarrassing to him.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm pretty sure she was hired as a humidor.
    Hopefully she won't get cancer from those things...

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    *sigh* Even this breaks down along partisan lines. We're really screwed as a species, aren't we?
    Monica has nothing to do with Hillary, now Bill was a different story. But even with Bill the majority of Americans were on his side and not the Republicans during his impeachment. Those who care about Monica aren't about to vote for Hillary come hell or high water. The rest just don't give a hoot. That was a good 15 years or more ago. The bottom line is Monica was Bill's problem, not Hillary's. She will have no effect at all on 2016 except to give those who would never vote for her another reason not to vote for her.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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