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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure...I'll accept politically driven sociopath. It certainly explains her willingness to attack women that have had the misfortune to being victimized by others that she needs politically.
    actually, yes
    she acts/speaks out i support of her 'team', team bill and hillary
    what is surprising is that her loyalty to team bill and hillary would be found surprising by some
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    actually, yes
    she acts/speaks out i support of her 'team', team bill and hillary
    what is surprising is that her loyalty to team bill and hillary would be found surprising by some
    I dont find that surprising so much as the complete mindless willingness of people that will ignore how much contempt she shows women and how they will jump to her side.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    For all those saying that what a President does in private should be between him and his wife and shouldn't have an impact on his job...

    Were you suggesting a similar view point towards what a CEO does in private?
    If a CEO wants to have an affair, that is between him and his spouse. Unless said affair is a relationship where the CEO has harassed a worker into it.

    Otherwise it is none of anyone else's damned business.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why was a 22 year old intern able to get Access to the President?

    Is that a common practice?

    What was her job in the White House anyway?
    Afternoon Mason. She had an unpaid summer White House internship in the office of White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta. It is said she got the job through family connections. She started that internship when she moved to DC in 1995. That same year she received a paid position in the White House Office of Legislative Affairs. It is said the White House staff had her transferred to the Pentagon when they noticed how much time she and Clinton were spending together.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    I agree, from the first page of this thread, this has been forced into the news to dispose of this baggage two years before the official 2016 campaign revs up into high gear. Only a complete political moron would not see that as a distinct possibility, even probability. Once the media hashes it out (again), it becomes 'old news' and can be dismissed as such by partisan media who will characterize it that way and shrug it off. We are not derelict in our duty, they will say, but we already covered that.

    Meanwhile, Hillary continues to blame and trash Monica, other women, the media, Republicans, etc. etc. etc. for all that and has yet to criticize or accuse Bill of any wrong doing of his own volition. And Monica, understandably, highly resents the characterization that she 'serviced Bill' when in her mind it was a completely consensual relationship and she was being 'serviced' as much as he was.

    The whole affair is disgusting enough. But the focus should be on the 'war on women'. Where is militant feminism when it comes to defending the women who were used and abused by the President of the USA? Where is Hillary expressing how woman after woman was trashed and destroyed in the media to protect Bill Clinton? How can she possibly defend that?
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    If a CEO wants to have an affair, that is between him and his spouse.
    So are ones sexual actions in ones private life the only thing that is "private"? Why singular on this.

    What, exactly, is the difference between being offended by a political view a CEO stated on his private time in a private conversation (that becomes known) and being offended by an illicite action a CEO did in his private time in a private situation (that becomes known)?

    That's what confuses me. People were morally outraged by a political action done by an individual, not by the company or on behalf of the company, and demanded action taken against a CEO....yet some of those same type of people seem to have an issue with people being morally outraged by a sexual action done by an individual, not by the country or on behalf of hte country, and suggest people were wrong to call for action.

    I'm fine with the notion that a persons private life is their private life...it just confuses me how people on BOTH sides of the aisle seem to like to find excuses and justifications to ignore and erase that notion whenever it suits their purposes.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So are ones sexual actions in ones private life the only thing that is "private"? Why singular on this.

    What, exactly, is the difference between being offended by a political view a CEO stated on his private time in a private conversation (that becomes known) and being offended by an illicite action a CEO did in his private time in a private situation (that becomes known)?
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    CEO's are entitled to their political opinions like everyone else. But I would certainly question a CEO's judgement if those opinions were made public.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    CEO's are entitled to their political opinions like everyone else. But I would certainly question a CEO's judgement if those opinions were made public.
    For full disclosure, I'm speaking most recently of the Mozilla CEO whose private contributions to a political cause angered employees causing some to demand his resignation and ultimately causing the board to push strongly for his resignation, with him ultimately actually resigning.

    This was not something he did on the company dime. It wasn't something he did in the name of the company. It was not something directly related to his duties with the company. This was him taking a political action in his private life...and people being offended by it and demanding pressure be put on him and action be taken. His action was making a $1000 towards a group supporting Prop 8.

    You can go back through that thread and see many folks of a similar persuation to those who feel that the condemnation and action against Clinton was wrongful and "private", even some who are in this thread, who had no problem with a company attempting to force out an executive because their private actions offend people since that person is the "representative" of the company. But somehow it was wrong for people to be upset about the private actions of the person representing hte country when those things offended them.

    Much like the notion of a superior engaging in a sexual relationship with a subordinate is a commonly viewed as an ethical no no throughout the professional world....but is suddenly shrugged off, or the focus is on blaming the subordinate, when it's political advantageous.

    It's just somewhat obnoxious with how inconsistent things can get.

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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post

    This was not something he did on the company dime. It wasn't something he did in the name of the company. It was not something directly related to his duties with the company. This was him taking a political action in his private life...and people being offended by it and demanding pressure be put on him and action be taken. His action was making a $1000 towards a group supporting Prop 8.
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    As I stated, his judgement should be called into question. He had to know if that got out it would be problematic. Some things are better off unsaid.

    I'm not suggesting it is right, but politics are a huge part of that job.
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    Re: Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Oh bull crap, she seeks the press out for the publicity. Cry me a river when you take her serious after appearing on Saturday Night Live.

    She is just cashing in on her fame.
    That kind of thing is often a 'victim' trying to take back some control....to use humor in that case. To show you can laugh at yourself.

    Look at the people the press tries to humiliate or that the media makes fun of...Christie and his weight, Hillary on SNL, Sarah Palin on SNL, etc.
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