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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

Lutherf said:
So after 20 years she decides to spill all the secrets? She chooses to do so two years before Hillary hits full blown campaign mode? That's convenient:roll:

If this isn't some kind of deal to dispose of Hillary baggage before the campaign I'll eat my hat.
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Clearly, she should have waited until September of 2016, that would have been very apolitical.
 
vesper said:
The other person she addresses is the singer Beyoncé and her song "Partition" where the lyrics include, "He popped all my buttons, and he ripped my blouse/He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown" -- is factually incorrect, according to Lewinsky. “Thanks, Beyoncé, but if we’re verbing, I think you meant ‘Bill Clinton’d all on my gown,’ not ‘Monica Lewinsky’d,'"
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Beyonce is an idiot.

If I were Lewinsky, I'd be pretty sick and tired of people lobbing crap at me through the years, and hearing my name in songs by morons.
 
I find it likely...that Beyoncé has had far more dresses "dry cleaned" than Lewinsky has ever even owned.
 
tres borrachos said:
Beyonce is an idiot.

If I were Lewinsky, I'd be pretty sick and tired of people lobbing crap at me
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, through the years, and hearing my name in songs by morons.
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Ya see ... you're doing' it too ... wait ... that was a Clinton/Lewinsky reference, wasn't it?
 
tres borrachos said:
Beyonce is an idiot.

If I were Lewinsky, I'd be pretty sick and tired of people lobbing crap at me through the years, and hearing my name in songs by morons.
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I find it hypocritical how some people seem to give the ex-president a pass but are more than willing to denigrate Lewinski. To keep it in perspective, Monica Lewinski was an intern, Bill Clinton was the married POTUS. And obviously this wasn't the first messing around that he had done either. They don't call him "slick Willy" for nothing! :mrgreen:
 
His serial philandering, which was well known long before he took office, was why I didn't vote for Clinton twice. I think Confederate Railroad's "Trashy Women" was written for him. ;)

With the exception of his best friend/life partner and his daughter, I don't think Bill
Clinton has much respect for women; they exist to service him. What an ego. Thinking about his talking on the phone to whatever dignity while he was being blown under the desk makes my blood boil.
 
nota bene said:
His serial philandering, which was well known long before he took office, was why I didn't vote for Clinton twice. I think Confederate Railroad's "Trashy Women" was written for him. ;)

With the exception of his best friend/life partner and his daughter, I don't think Bill
Clinton has much respect for women; they exist to service him. What an ego. Thinking about his talking on the phone to whatever dignity while he was being blown under the desk makes my blood boil.
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I don't see where you can include his "life partner" or his daughter as women he respects. It's an oxymoron to claim a serial adulterer has any respect whatsoever for his wife and family.
 
ChrisL said:
I find it hypocritical how some people seem to give the ex-president a pass but are more than willing to denigrate Lewinski. To keep it in perspective, Monica Lewinski was an intern, Bill Clinton was the married POTUS. And obviously this wasn't the first messing around that he had done either. They don't call him "slick Willy" for nothing! :mrgreen:
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Who gives him a pass??

Seriously????
 
ChrisL said:
Well, let's see, his WIFE for one. :mrgreen:
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What makes you say that???

Many betrayed wives put the affairs in perspective and get past them. How do you know....my gut says she made him suffer.:lamo

Many women stay with their philandering husbands. Doesn't mean she gave him a pass. At all. She put the affair in her own personal perspective.
 
year2late said:
What makes you say that???

Many betrayed wives put the affairs in perspective and get past them. How do you know....my gut says she made him suffer.:lamo

Many women stay with their philandering husbands. Doesn't mean she gave him a pass. At all. She put the affair in her own personal perspective.
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Are you forgetting about all the others? ;)
 
tres borrachos said:
Beyonce is an idiot.

If I were Lewinsky, I'd be pretty sick and tired of people lobbing crap at me through the years, and hearing my name in songs by morons.
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For 12 million dollars I'll be happy to Top Cat your dress for you.
 
ChrisL said:
Are you forgetting about all the others? ;)
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Again. what evidence do you have that she gave him a pass?

We have no clue what happened within the context of their relationship.

I have known a few families that stayed together after adultery. Some people put sex in a different perspective within the context of the marriage.
 
year2late said:
Again. what evidence do you have that she gave him a pass?

We have no clue what happened within the context of their relationship.

I have known a few families that stayed together after adultery. Some people put sex in a different perspective within the context of the marriage.
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Oh come on! Bill Clinton was a philanderer quite obviously. :lol: Are you denying this? Or maybe Hilary just believes him?

And these are the ones we KNOW about.

Clinton has only admitted extramarital relationships with Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers though charges were also made by Kathleen Willey.[2]
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Other allegations[edit]
In 1992 nude model and actress Gennifer Flowers stated that she had a relationship with Clinton that began in 1980.[11] Flowers at first denied that she had an affair with Clinton, but later changed her story.[12][13] Clinton admitted that he had a sexual encounter with Flowers.[14]

In 1998, Kathleen Willey alleged Clinton groped her in a hallway in 1993. An independent counsel determined Willey gave "false information" to the FBI, inconsistent with sworn testimony related to the Jones allegation.[15] Willey dodged perjury charges after Kenneth Starr granted her immunity for her testimony.[15]

In 1998, Juanita Broaddrick alleged Clinton had raped her though she did not remember the exact date, which may have been 1978.[16] Broaddrick's only sworn testimony about Clinton was a previous denial of any harassment by Clinton.[17]

In 1998, in response to what she called false media claims that Clinton had raped her, Elizabeth Ward Gracen recanted a six-year-old denial and stated she had a one night stand with Clinton in 1982.[18] Gracen later apologized to Hillary Clinton.[18]

Dolly Kyle Browning began writing a "semi-autobiographical novel" about her alleged affair with Bill Clinton. In the publication process, Browning asserted that Clinton did everything in his power to prohibit and undermine publication. Browning sued Clinton for damages, but the US Court of Appeals denied her appeal.[19]
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ChrisL said:
Oh come on! Bill Clinton was a philanderer quite obviously. :lol: Are you denying this? Or maybe Hilary just believes him?

And these are the ones we KNOW about.
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It seems like it is completely possible that she simply didn't care if he had sex with other women, especially if she really wasn't one for sex herself (or if they simply were a power couple). And that would be their business.

People need to remember that despite being only about 20 years ago, most people would not be comfortable with couples, particularly powerful political couples openly agreeing that their spouse could have sex with someone outside of their marriage, but it happened more often than we would also like to admit (I was in my later teens when this started coming out, and I remember saying even back then that Hillary likely didn't care two bits if Bill slept with other women, provided it was actually consensual). Heck, even now, many people would not be comfortable to find out that a power political couple had/has an agreement that allows for sex outside the marriage, eventhough it's their marriage, their agreements to each other.
 
roguenuke said:
It seems like it is completely possible that she simply didn't care if he had sex with other women, especially if she really wasn't one for sex herself (or if they simply were a power couple). And that would be their business.

People need to remember that despite being only about 20 years ago, most people would not be comfortable with couples, particularly powerful political couples openly agreeing that their spouse could have sex with someone outside of their marriage, but it happened more often than we would also like to admit (I was in my later teens when this started coming out, and I remember saying even back then that Hillary likely didn't care two bits if Bill slept with other women, provided it was actually consensual). Heck, even now, many people would not be comfortable to find out that a power political couple had/has an agreement that allows for sex outside the marriage, eventhough it's their marriage, their agreements to each other.
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Well then that would be even less of a reason to denigrate Ms. Lewinsky for some bad judgments she may have made as a 21 or 22-year-old young naive woman who was being wooed by the most powerful man in the world at the time.
 
ChrisL said:
Oh come on! Bill Clinton was a philanderer quite obviously. :lol: Are you denying this? Or maybe Hilary just believes him?

And these are the ones we KNOW about.
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I wouldn't doubt if Hillary cheated on him too. Usually career women don't put up with a philandering husband. They either leave him or get even. And I do recall that there was rumors that she had an affair with Vince Foster.
 
Muhammed said:
I wouldn't doubt if Hillary cheated on him too. Usually career women don't put up with a philandering husband. They either leave him or get even. And I do recall that there was rumors that she had an affair with Vince Foster.
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Well, if that were the case (which I somehow doubt), I would think when she was running for president, all kinds of allegations would have been brought up, but who knows, maybe she's just better at keeping secrets.
 
ChrisL said:
Oh come on! Bill Clinton was a philanderer quite obviously. :lol: Are you denying this? Or maybe Hilary just believes him?

And these are the ones we KNOW about.
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That was a good list for starters. Another name that comes to mind is Susan McDougal, the Arkansas woman who spent 18 months in jail for refusing to answer questions from special prosecutor Ken Starr, and then received a presidential pardon from Clinton. It is amazing to read the comments from the women who lean left coming to Hillary's defense making excuses for her while demanding Lewinsky be tarred and feathered for her part. Seriously what feminist would put up with Bill's affairs? A hypocritical one?
 
ChrisL said:
Well then that would be even less of a reason to denigrate Ms. Lewinsky for some bad judgments she may have made as a 21 or 22-year-old young naive woman who was being wooed by the most powerful man in the world at the time.
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Who knows why she didn't like Lewinski? Do we know if she said the same thing about all the other women that Bill slept with or something similar? When was the comment made? Perhaps more went on between the Clintons and Lewinsky that we don't know about. In fact, it is kind of a strange "insult" to make about a husband's mistress to begin with. Most people would call the other woman a "homewrecker" or "jezebel" or "tramp" or something along those lines, instead Hillary called her a "narcissistic loony toon". This suggests that there was something besides the affair itself that made Hillary dislike Monica.

Lewinsky was not a naive young woman simply wooed by a powerful man. She told people prior to going to DC that she wanted to have sex with the President, and even mentioned that she wouldn't mind other White House figures as well, including the VP and Stephanopoulos ("Oh, him, the little guy? Oh, I love him!"). That isn't naive. That is a girl with stars or dollar signs in her head (or both) to begin with. Young women can enjoy sex too, and they can even have future aspirations to write, say tell all novels about their time "in the White House". I'm more than willing to bet that was the most likely reason for much of her behavior during the affair, including trying to convince Tripp not to talk to Starr and keeping the dress.
 
chromium said:
No one deserves to feel like they can't stand continuing to live because of a blowjob, regardless of circumstances. People talk about that being a "scandal" or something (google 'monica lewinsky' and it expands to include 'scandal'), no, all it was was a blowjob followed by a lie to a question that was no one's business to ask in the first place (except Hillary's). This is done on a daily basis all over the country.
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Wow, only got a few posts in before the robotic, erroneous, leftist defense of Clinton. Nah, no scandal here. It's okay to lie under oath about this subject if you are a democrat. Also if you are an abuser of women, a pervert, and all around disgusting human being that any responsible person wouldn't want left in a room along with a female loved one.
 
vesper said:
That was a good list for starters. Another name that comes to mind is Susan McDougal, the Arkansas woman who spent 18 months in jail for refusing to answer questions from special prosecutor Ken Starr, and then received a presidential pardon from Clinton. It is amazing to read the comments from the women who lean left coming to Hillary's defense making excuses for her while demanding Lewinsky be tarred and feathered for her part. Seriously what feminist would put up with Bill's affairs? A hypocritical one?
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It's just disgusting that some people would lie the blame at HER feet, while giving him a pass. IMO, he was WAY more wrong in this situation than Monica. He was the POTUS. He made oaths, not only to his wife but to his country. I don't really hate him for this. I actually really don't care if he cheats on his wife or with whom, it's just the principal that some feel so comfortable with being cruel to this woman who was really not much more than a girl, and her life (according to her story) has been pretty much ruined. I can't imagine having to have people recognize me everywhere I went for something stupid I did as a young adult and never ever be able to live it down. That's why I have empathy for her. She says she cannot even find a job.
 
roguenuke said:
Who knows why she didn't like Lewinski? Do we know if she said the same thing about all the other women that Bill slept with or something similar? When was the comment made? Perhaps more went on between the Clintons and Lewinsky that we don't know about. In fact, it is kind of a strange "insult" to make about a husband's mistress to begin with. Most people would call the other woman a "homewrecker" or "jezebel" or "tramp" or something along those lines, instead Hillary called her a "narcissistic loony toon". This suggests that there was something besides the affair itself that made Hillary dislike Monica.

Lewinsky was not a naive young woman simply wooed by a powerful man. She told people prior to going to DC that she wanted to have sex with the President, and even mentioned that she wouldn't mind other White House figures as well, including the VP and Stephanopoulos ("Oh, him, the little guy? Oh, I love him!"). That isn't naive. That is a girl with stars or dollar signs in her head (or both) to begin with. Young women can enjoy sex too, and they can even have future aspirations to write, say tell all novels about their time "in the White House". I'm more than willing to bet that was the most likely reason for much of her behavior during the affair, including trying to convince Tripp not to talk to Starr and keeping the dress.
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Good Lord, just those statements ALONE show that she was a naive young woman and she WAS at the age of 22 years old. Not much more than a child really. Sorry, he is way more to blame than she is.
 
ChrisL said:
It's just disgusting that some people would lie the blame at HER feet, while giving him a pass. IMO, he was WAY more wrong in this situation than Monica. He was the POTUS. He made oaths, not only to his wife but to his country. I don't really hate him for this. I actually really don't care if he cheats on his wife or with whom, it's just the principal that some feel so comfortable with being cruel to this woman who was really not much more than a girl, and her life (according to her story) has been pretty much ruined. I can't imagine having to have people recognize me everywhere I went for something stupid I did as a young adult and never ever be able to live it down. That's why I have empathy for her. She says she cannot even find a job.
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I second that and hope she publishes a book not leaving out one salacious detail and makes mega millions on it. If she did it right she could balance it with documents and testimony given from the trial of the other women over their encounters with Clinton. I don't think most people realize just how close he came to being indicted.
 
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